Teaser Snapshot of the CSR Interarms Sporting rifle

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Manufacturing costs are a reality though. This CSR which is probably being made in relatively small batches is still costing X amount. They won't be able to sell it at prices that compete with the SKS - which was mass produced and the original funders of the product aren't around any more to ensure they got their money back when they sold! Thats the beauty of SKS and Mosins. I appreciate that the idea of a Bolt action AK-lookalike will not appeal to many and honestly it doesn't appeal to me but I get and appreciate what they are trying to do here. I also understand manufacturing costs and know that it won't be cheap to bring these to market.
 
Well, time will tell if there is enough demand for them to cover their costs. I hope, for UT's sake, that they manage to make this work, especially if this is the "foot in the door" for a follow up line of semi-auto CSR's.
 
The CSR is not an expensive rifle to build. From the stamped AK receiver to the AK front sight post it's all inexpensive AK parts.

Without seeing the inside, it's possible that the receiver rails may be different as well as the reciprocating parts.
 
Stevo said:
The CSR is not an expensive rifle to build. From the stamped AK receiver to the AK front sight post it's all inexpensive AK parts.

Without seeing the inside, it's possible that the receiver rails may be different as well as the reciprocating parts.
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Sure its mostly stamped parts but would they not have to design and build the press to stamp out a new designed receiver for the CSR that doesn't allow AK parts to be dropped into it? Watch youtube videos on the Swiss 1889 bolt action rifle. It will give you a rough idea of what the guts look like on this guy. Striker fired, rotating bolt. on the Schmidt Ruben 1889, the cocking handle runs to the right of the bolt, almost external. My guess is that on the CSR, they have "hidden" those components underneath the bolt where you would normally find the hammer assembly.

We'll have to wait and see one torn down but if all these parts are new manufactured parts.. even if they are stamped, the machinery still had to be built and isn't cheap.
 
AK receivers are flat pieces of metal bent into a "U" shape. The rails for the bolt carrier are riveted in, as are the front and rear trunnions. They are not expensive or complex and can be built from scratch at home with minimal tools. There is no significant cost to the receiver of this rifle. Especially if it's a standard AK receiver as it appears to be.

You're speculating on what is hidden, I'm speculating on what is visible.
 
can someone explain to me how this operates as a bolt gun? in one of the photos i thought i saw a operating rod / recoil spring assembly under the receiver cover

would you just yank the charging handle manually for every shot? im confused here...
 
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AFAIU the K31 action, the bolt is a rotating bolt (versus the tilted bolt of an SKS), the straight pull is only achieved with a cam.
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Agreed, and most straight pulls are rotating bolts. The various Schmidt Ruben actions, the Ross, I think even Browning had one for a while. Heck even pump actions are essentially straight pulls with rotating bolts. However, the fact remains that the vast majority of accuracy focused bolt actions are turn bolt designs where final camming is powered by the user. I just don't think you are going to see the same level of accuracy out of this as there still has to be relatively loose tolerances in order for the spring action to put the bolt in battery. The SR and the Ross are both very accurate rifle designs for military surplus rifles (actually to be 100% correct I understand the Ross was quite a target rifle in it's day), but they are not still being made for a reason. I am assuming this design is expensive and difficult to make well compared to a turn bolt action like the Mauser (cause really, aren't all bolt actions some variation on the basic Mauser design?)

Anyway, like I said in my previous post, this rifle could be more accurate than a semi-auto version due to less reciprocating parts, but I don't think it will keep up with a modern sporter. Meh, the only way to tell is to try it I guess.

At least the BA should be easier to clean..unless the bolt is as complex as the Schmidt Ruben. Hmmm, yeah that could be an issue for cleaning when using corrosive ammo.

Ultimately for me, if the price is right I might be interested just for the "Piss off a Fudd" factor but I likely won't want to spend to much $$$ for that little bit guilty pleasure.
 
I'll wait to see how the semi versions go before making judgement.

This could be fail or epic, depending.
 
if it isnt an ak action poeple are still going to hate. personally ill wait for the type 81 it was designed for the action it has. putting a different action in an ak body just doesnt appeal to me.
 
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Sure its mostly stamped parts but would they not have to design and build the press to stamp out a new designed receiver for the CSR that doesn't allow AK parts to be dropped into it? Watch youtube videos on the Swiss 1889 bolt action rifle. It will give you a rough idea of what the guts look like on this guy. Striker fired, rotating bolt. on the Schmidt Ruben 1889, the cocking handle runs to the right of the bolt, almost external. My guess is that on the CSR, they have "hidden" those components underneath the bolt where you would normally find the hammer assembly.

We'll have to wait and see one torn down but if all these parts are new manufactured parts.. even if they are stamped, the machinery still had to be built and isn't cheap.
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I don't think it will actualy resemble the Swiss m1889 inside I think they just used that as an example of the straight bolt action design.
 
daniel_250r said:
if it isnt an ak action poeple are still going to hate. personally ill wait for the type 81 it was designed for the action it has. putting a different action in an ak body just doesnt appeal to me.
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As long it as its reasonably close in principle I wouldn't care.

AK parts interchangeability between different makes and models is all over the place, so one more variation is not a big deal as long as furniture and accessories are compatible, as sounds like the case.
 
Stevo said:
AK receivers are flat pieces of metal bent into a "U" shape. The rails for the bolt carrier are riveted in, as are the front and rear trunnions. They are not expensive or complex and can be built from scratch at home with minimal tools. There is no significant cost to the receiver of this rifle. Especially if it's a standard AK receiver as it appears to be.

You're speculating on what is hidden, I'm speculating on what is visible.
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If it was a standard AK receiver it would be prohibited! plain and simple. It looks AKish but there has to be something very different about it for it not to be prohib. Then again our gun Laws have never been plain and simple. I'm really anxious to check one of these out in person to see exactly what they are. (and are not. LOL)
 
I for one could care less about the whining of it. I know, its a bolt action. Still very cool for another rifle to be coming into the country.
I for 1 will buy this. Just for when I want that easy going plinking day. I will also buy several semis when and if they come in as TW stated on their FB page
 
daniel_250r said:
the whole point of an ak is its guts thats the wow factor.
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As long as its a long stroke, overgassed, heavy BCG, rotating bolt action with generous clearances and heavy springs and other components throughout, I'm not going to be fussy if those parts don't interchange with an existing rifle. Even just looking at Izhmash AKs, you can't use an AK-47/AKM BCG in a AK-103 or AK-104 in the same caliber, so what is a real AK?
 
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