UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

I just wonder if you anybody who has Rossi ranch hand in 38 special/ 357 magnum has problem with reload 38 speical with Lead Semi Wad Cutter bullet, My Rossi is kinda jammed with those type of bullet, I can still shot it but it's really hard to cycle each bullet. I have ton of Blazer 357 magnum hollow point round bullet without any problem. Thanks.
 
KND said:
I just wonder if you anybody who has Rossi ranch hand in 38 special/ 357 magnum has problem with reload 38 speical with Lead Semi Wad Cutter bullet, My Rossi is kinda jammed with those type of bullet, I can still shot it but it's really hard to cycle each bullet. I have ton of Blazer 357 magnum hollow point round bullet without any problem. Thanks.
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I have trouble shooting .38spl as well, the gun will often feed two rounds resulting in a jam. It runs flawlessly with .357 though. I've tried a few different .38spl rounds and they all have problems.

I still need to do something about my sights as it shoots high. What's the cheapest way to remedy this?
 
Ok, I gave up searching so I order steve's dvd combo kit with upgrade spring and metal follower as well as the Rossi 92 tool kit, I will report back if I can fix that ranch hand with dvd from steve. I really like to shot with 38 special hand load, recoil is managable and cheap to shot.


mozambique technique said:
I have trouble shooting .38spl as well, the gun will often feed two rounds resulting in a jam. It runs flawlessly with .357 though. I've tried a few different .38spl rounds and they all have problems.

I still need to do something about my sights as it shoots high. What's the cheapest way to remedy this?
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I can live with the sight, since isn't that bad when adjust to the lowest.
 
TyK said:
I read through about.. 150 pages of this and was wondering what the consensus was on baby carbine sights? So far this is my idea for my eventual 357 Ranch Hand:

1. Boyd full stock (Winchester 94 PRE-64)
2. Skinner Barrel Mount Peep Sight
3. Skinner Front Sights (.650" Tall)
4. Steves DVD Action Job Kit
5. Rossi 92 Tool kit

I've seen a lot of people talking about the open sights and very little on the skinners. Are they a solid enough choice or is there something a bit better? (Any opinion on the Steve safety peep?)

Thanks for any insight you guys can give.
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I tried a Skinner barrel-mount peep sight. For me, it did not work because the sight-window was too small and too dim when the stock Ranch Hand was extended away from the face ... the only way that it can be safely shot with reasonable accuracy. And that was after actually removing the aperture. Super quality though, and the owner is a great guy. I highly recommend the 24" green nylon Skinner Scabbard that's designed for take-down Marlins. It's perfect for the RH ... high quality and inexpensive at $50. Just make sure to tell them that it's for a Rossi Ranch Hand ... to ensure that the inner length is a full 24".

Of course, my comments would only apply to a Ranch Hand with its original stock.
 
Does anyones ranch hand actually shoot POA = POI. or is everyone a foot high or a foot low?

Is there a specific sight and specific height that remedies this within an acceptable tolerance? Or are you just screwed?

At a specific yardage of say 25 or 50 yards.
 
They all shoot high. You need a taller front sight and or a lower rear sight. Some people don't like the tallest front sight and will combine a lower then .5 inch sight with a lower rear sight but I prefer the taller overall sight line with the ranch hand.

Someone needs to sticky all the pertinent info from this thread such as sight combination etc ...
Basically you want the tallest front sight you can find in my opinion which is around .5 inches.
Or you can grind the stock rear sight notch down with a dremel and remove the elevator.
 
I've been through several sight iterations. My Ranch Hand is in 45 Colt and I was close to POA=POI with a .538 Marbles front and the elevator removed from the stock rear. I am now POA=POI with a .570 Marbles front and a Bullseye rear. This is shooting Wolf 250 grain cowboy loads at 20 yards. Initially with stock sights I was 8"-10" POI above POA at 8 yards with the Wolf load.
 
I got the skinner sights, with a little filing on the front sight it is now poi/poa. I forget where I saw it but someone makes sells a sight that replaces the silly safety on the ranch hand and looks like it would work well.
 
driller212 said:
I am using the Steve's high front sight and the low rear buckhorn sight and I get poi=poa.
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Me too ... except that I used the Steve's Gunz low-rear flat-top rear sight ... basically the same elevation as the Steve's low rear buckhorn. I was one of the first two-or-three-dozen to purchase a Ranch Hand from the first batch to arrive in Canada ... from Wanstall's, naturally. Mine was a .44 Magnum. It needed work, but we eventually got it all sorted-out.

As somebody suggested earlier ... this simple "fix" for a chronic (and still unaddressed) factory problem should fer-sure be a simple and clearly labelled "sticky" ... I could not imagine a more-obvious candidate for stickiness. There is no reason for new buyers to have to wade through all these posts.

The folks at Wanstall's were awesome ... busted their asses to fix "initial quality issues" as I got increasingly grumpy ... but Rossi seems to have an outrageous FU attitude towards its North American customers ... maybe because it's so warm and humid down there ... all that napping and stuff.

The Olympics should be interesting ...

My firearm is now ... wait for this ... perfect. For me. YMMV:)
 
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Well the first post of the thread has the fix for the shooting high in it... Just sayin :)

If anyone finds a fix for the jamming that would be nice to have in the first post.
 
I keep coming back to this thread and I should stop...lol. I really want one bad. Perfect backpacking gun IMO and can't afford it right now. *cries*
 
awesome load results Hodaka!

Hodaka said:
Just wanted to add my latest load here:
330GR Beartooth WFN. 20.5 gr H110. 1383 FPS. Yup.
PLEASE NOTE: do not use my load data for your gun. Please do your own research on loading for the .45 Colt and your firearm. This load is pretty much guaranteed to blow up some .45 colt revolvers.
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I made some similar loadings of H110 with "Bullet Barn" 300gr LC FP pB hard cast bullets (Brinell hardness 25) but had dissapointing results ie 950fps (I wanted to reach 1200fps) Did you use anything behind the bullet to seal the bore ? Did you have to slug the barrel or size the bullets before loading? Whatever you did it sure worked !

Thanks for any information you can offer

doug
North Coast of BC
 
218Bee said:
I've been through several sight iterations. My Ranch Hand is in 45 Colt and I was close to POA=POI with a .538 Marbles front and the elevator removed from the stock rear. I am now POA=POI with a .570 Marbles front and a Bullseye rear. This is shooting Wolf 250 grain cowboy loads at 20 yards. Initially with stock sights I was 8"-10" POI above POA at 8 yards with the Wolf load.
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Yep, this is the same sight set-up I installed months ago and ended up with the same results.
However, I found the bead on the front sight too big for shooting golf ball sized targets
out to 50+ yds., so I honed it to a 1/32" thick flat top blade.

I can now focus more precisely on targets with this little carbine.
The targets show today's results using MCE hardcast 250gr. Keith type over a load of SR4759
and a pinch of kapok to hold it in place. This is the best load I've worked up so far for the
uses this wee rifle will see. The velocity of this load is a tad over 800 fps., is easy on
brass , accurate & powerfull enough for the job and a joy to shoot.

After lots of shooting with both my .357 and .45 Colt "baby carbines", I've come to the conclusion
that the practical maximum range for deer & larger game is 50 yds. given the shooter's ability, as well
as ideal conditions with good loads. The short sight radius, when combined with a carbine length stock
brings the sights closer to the shooter's eye which tend to make the front sight appear big and fuzzy,
at least for me. Hence the thinning out the front sight bit.

Held out "handgun style" with the fore end resting on a padded rest, a stock Ranch Hand with good sights
presents a clearer sight picture for me than one with a normal rifle stock. Either way, these are great little
blasters for anyone who gets into 'em.:)

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JohnC said:
Been looking on this thread and elsewhere and probably missed it but does anyone know who carries aftermarket levers for the RH? (And ideally ships to Canada). Looking for regular lever size Only found a lever reshaper and Numrich seems to be out. Many thanks.
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I took my chiappa into reliable... They sourced a "normal" sized lever for me. I can't stand the big loops...
 
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