Really ? Z 3 is that a Zeiss model ? Sorry, I'm not familiar with that one, please tell us more.
A light rifle....
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Really ? Z 3 is that a Zeiss model ? Sorry, I'm not familiar with that one, please tell us more.
Nope,1899 is talking Swaro. I recently switched out the Leupold VX-3 on my NULA to an earlier model Swarovski 3-9X36mm Habicht with a BDC reticle. Really nice scope in the mountains. Prices on the EE for this model are comparable to the newer VX-3's. Brighter glass and more forgiving eyebox in my experience as well.
A slip on some loose scree put a large dent in the eyepiece of my scope,so I contacted Swarovski and they paid for shipping both ways to New York and replaced the eyepiece as well as servicing the whole scope.
Bear in mind that this was 10-15 year old glass I bought second hand off the EE with no original receipt,turnaround time for the repair was a couple weeks.
Leupolds warranty is legendary, but anyone who says Swaros warranty isn't as good is out to lunch.
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Mines a Habicht as well, exactly the same as the newer Z3 only difference being the current lens coatings on the Z3 line.
You have a nice scope there Kevan,hang on to it.
Here's a pic of a 3-9X36 Swarovski on a Model 20 if anyone is considering mounting one on their new Forbes. The windage turret on my VX-3 would get dinged on occasion by an empty case, the lower profile and different position of the turrets on the Swaro keeps them clear of ejecting cases.
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Or one could simple rotate the scope 90* to the left so the windage turret is now the elevation and vis-versa. Right and Left now become Raise and Lower, and the windage is simple to figure out with the up and down marks in the horizontal plane. This works so well that I've changed most of my scope over this way. It's also amazing how much difference not having an adjustment turret in the way makes when loading the magazine from the top.
Give it an honest try, and I bet you won't go back.
I don't see why that couldn't work with a standard duplex and I just might try it in the future. I never gave much thought to how much easier it would be loading without that windage turret over the mag, that's very interesting.
Any type of BDC reticle you'd be S.O.L. though.
To be totally fair I would have to say the VX-3 has the more positive feeling adjustments versus the Swaro Z3.
There's a seller on the EE who has a Z3 3-9X36 for six hundred and change, I've dealt with him before and he is tops.
If I was in the market for glass for a mountain rifle I'd be on that like a hobo on a ham sammitch!
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Nope,1899 is talking Swaro. I recently switched out the Leupold VX-3 on my NULA to an earlier model Swarovski 3-9X36mm Habicht with a BDC reticle. Really nice scope in the mountains. Prices on the EE for this model are comparable to the newer VX-3's. Brighter glass and more forgiving eyebox in my experience as well.
A slip on some loose scree put a large dent in the eyepiece of my scope,so I contacted Swarovski and they paid for shipping both ways to New York and replaced the eyepiece as well as servicing the whole scope.
Bear in mind that this was 10-15 year old glass I bought second hand off the EE with no original receipt,turnaround time for the repair was a couple weeks.
Leupolds warranty is legendary, but anyone who says Swaros warranty isn't as good is out to lunch.
glad to hear that good news from the US side of this wonderful company ... in Europe for sure he won`t be free ...
but the combo suggested by 1899 is something to think about.
what kind of reticle is available for the z3 3-9x36?
My preference bucks the current trend and certainly this thread... I detest light rifles... My shooting (offhand) is much better with a more weighty rifle... And preferably a short, weighty rifle... Granted I am predominantly an Ontario hunter... My opinion might change if I had to hike a kilometer vertically... I hike miles now with pack and rifle and through some tough terrain and over Ontario hills, but these "hills" are laughable to you Western folk.
Duplex and a 4A is all that is currently available in the 3-9X36 Z3.
I was lucky enough to find an earlier model with the TDS reticle.
Good info on the scope Sun and Steel. I had to turn the scope 90 deg on my finnlight so that the ejected empties wouldn't hit the windage adjustment cover. It doesn't really matter anyways, it's not like I'm adjusting my scope while hunting.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
This was easy . . .
This kicked my butt . . .
As for Ontario, the north shore of Lake Superior is challenging enough for anyone.
Holy Crap ! There's places in the world where hunters can see more than 50 feet ? That's almost like cheating ! Where I am hunting, it probably makes more sense to carry something like a Win model 94, or a Savage model 24 in some rifle calibre over some shotgun gauge (we do have the odd grouse here), but I just prefer to take a stainless, synthetic, bolt action with a scope for some reason. And lighter is most certainly better, as going up a kilometer vertically is sometimes only the morning hunt.
Great photo Boomer! What mountain range was that picture taken in?
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
We were west of Whitehorse and the snow capped mountains in the distance over my right shoulder are those near Haines Jct. I think that makes it the Ruby Range, but maybe one of our Yukon residents can confirm that.
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I didn't realize the NOVA was a steel tube, Swarovski told me my A model was late '90's, so if the NOVA pre-dates that one it must be old. I wonder if the steel ocular bell would have fared better in my fall?
The scope I was suggesting to Kevan is a Z3, it's for the same price as the NOVA he has pictured in the ad 630$.
I'd link the EE ad but I'm thinking thats against the rules or something. I have no affiliation with the seller I just think that little scope suits a NULA/Forbes like peanut butter and jelly,especially if you consider the majority of VX-3's for sale on the EE are 500$ and above, that's not even with a B&C reticle half the time.
Not knocking Leupolds but the optical quality between a Z3 and a VX-3 is well worth an extra hundred bucks.
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I agree - the Z3 is the way to go. I had a fixed 6x Habicht Nova on a SS Model Seven in 7mm-08. It was a handy setup and the optics were great, but the seeing as the scope had a steel tube, it had some weight to it!
