ASC LAR 10/30 round pistol mags

So, you can only use an AR 15 at a shooting range… And these are 10 round magazines just like the LAR 10 round magazines… So everybody is hot and horny about a 10 round magazine that 'looks like' a 30 round magazine to walk around at their gun club? Plus it does not look at all legal…
Am I missing something here?
What's the big draw for these?


would these not fit in a Tavor as well? non restricted?
 
So enfgee, I guess you ain't going To be showing up on course with these ones. Ha.
 
Why this doesn't work:

3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,


(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,

(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,

The thirty round length was originally developed for use in a rifle - this is nothing new, and is why the approved mags are of a non-standard length, for example the 15 round length of the original LAR mag, and the 23 round length of the ATR mag.

Yep, there is generally a requirement to show that the magazine is of a novel design, not just a standard 30 rounder stamped "pistol only".
 
30 round mags were in use in Viet Nam in 1967-68, AR pistols weren't produced until long after the passage of the GCA '68 which required a tax stamp on all SBR's. The 30 round magazine was developed by the US military for the M16 rifle.

The 1968 GCA did not institute the tax stamp for SBRs, that was the 1934 NFA. The GCA established the FFL system, defined prohibited persons, outlawed interstate sale of firearms without going through an FFL, and added the "sporting purpose" import regulations.
 
The 1968 GCA did not institute the tax stamp for SBRs, that was the 1934 NFA. The GCA established the FFL system, defined prohibited persons, outlawed interstate sale of firearms without going through an FFL, and added the "sporting purpose" import regulations.

I stand corrected - but the 30 round mag still preceded the AR pistol by a few tens of years.
 
Why this doesn't work:

3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,


(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,

(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,

The thirty round length was originally developed for use in a rifle - this is nothing new, and is why the approved mags are of a non-standard length, for example the 15 round length of the original LAR mag, and the 23 round length of the ATR mag.

I don't know man, this all hold very much true in the case of a 30r mag that is pinned to 10.
It was designed to be 30 but modified for 10.

In the case of these new mags, they have been deliberately physically designed to only hold 10 round, but just have a longer over all length.
To me, they lump into the same category as a lar mag that has had an extension put on the end.
They have simply streamlined the extension into the body design.

That's just what I'm thinking anyway.

I also didn't read this whole thread so someone probably pointed this out already.
 
I don't know man, this all hold very much true in the case of a 30r mag that is pinned to 10.
It was designed to be 30 but modified for 10.

In the case of these new mags, they have been deliberately physically designed to only hold 10 round, but just have a longer over all length.
To me, they lump into the same category as a lar mag that has had an extension put on the end.
They have simply streamlined the extension into the body design.

That's just what I'm thinking anyway.

I also didn't read this whole thread so someone probably pointed this out already.

Post number 90

Here's the key point from a regulatory standpoint, quoted from Questar's letter of approval from the RCMP

b) The cartridge magazine for this handgun as manufactured by C Products LLC is not an adaption (sic) of a magazine designed and manufactured for use in a semi-automatic rifle.
 
Hmm, I did't see it as an adaptation at first. I could see how is could be perceived as one.

I think the question we have to ask, is, can this mag be modified to hold more then 10 rounds ?

Now that I take another good look at it. Perhaps it is. They crunched in the corners or a 30r.
I suppose if you cut out those corners it would hold more then 10, tho' perhaps not reliably.

I guess we'll see.

Either way, if you think about it, it's kind of sad how we are in the position that we get excited over things like this :S
 
So, you can only use an AR 15 at a shooting range… And these are 10 round magazines just like the LAR 10 round magazines… So everybody is hot and horny about a 10 round magazine that 'looks like' a 30 round magazine to walk around at their gun club? Plus it does not look at all legal…
Am I missing something here?
What's the big draw for these?

There are lots of non-restricted firearms that use STANAG magazines. So people can go hunting or target shooting with magazines that fit nicely into a chest rig without spacers or magazine couplers.

Edit: for some reason my phone decided the "last page" was two pages before this one. My bad.
 
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