.375 Ruger....

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I know what the process is, but what determines where they set maximum safe pressures at.........brass is pretty much all the same now (sort of) I'm still not convinced it is anything but arbitrary and just as lawyer overseen and approved as new loading manuals.
 
JJ.......you noticed all that enthusiasm, well I have to give it a fair shake myself before I can definitively say it sucks or shines, it's the fair way to do this............It still won't change my opinion as to the longevity of this orphan, but I will know the full capability of the cartridge and how it really compares to the H&H. Using W-W brass I can truly load it to it's full potential for an honest comparison..........Right now I get 2925 from a 270 gn TSX in a 24" tube in my 700 Rem H&H with R-P brass and RL 15, the Ruger should get over 3000 fps with this bullet if it acts as it should, with the more efficient powder column and slightly greater capacity. My 9.3X300 has given me 3040 fps with 270s and less powder capacity, but a 26" tube. The Ruger should easily match this if all is Kosher and the cartridge design is without flaw.
3000 fps with a 270 should really twist gatehouse's tail up in a knot and have him spluttering about blowing up guns etc...........my motto is, as long as the brass contains the pressure and the case is reusable for 3-5 loads it is safe. This standard of loading was set down in writing many years ago by a gentleman with much greater exposure than I and several books to his credit, so it isn't just me, you might recognize his name..........Bob Hagel........I might add PO Ackley was also a firm proponent of getting the full capability from a cartridge and had a lot to do with his AI design, so he could increase pressure and reduce bolt face thrust to gain the greatest possible capability from a given case size.
But what do I know, "just another moron that keeps adding powder till something gives" is how I have been characterized by some here. So all I have to say to that is "Let the games begin", let's see what gives and where............

I hope you will list your loads. It will be interesting to run them through QuickLoad and get a pressure estimate from the program.
 
Actually it is the opposite. :) He got poked so many times that he decided to join the team and buy a New King for himself:)

Let's not get carried away, I did NOT join any team !!!!! I bought one to load it up and test it out, then most likely have it bored to 416 and make a 416 Ruger or more likely a 2.6" 404 case. I LIKE the Ruger African model.
 
Let's not get carried away, I did NOT join any team !!!!! I bought one to load it up and test it out, then most likely have it bored to 416 and make a 416 Ruger or more likely a 2.6" 404 case. I LIKE the Ruger African model.

Always room for one more on team New King!

Welcome, brother.

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A bullet of .375 caliber is the answer, and has always been the answer, regardless of the question. The question of which cartridge should contain the powder charge that makes the bullet useful has become just a little bit tedious. So whether you prefer: Schoville, Chatfield-Taylor, a couple of Weatherbys, H&H, Ruger, Ultramag, Dakota, or a host of wildcats far too numerous to name, the key remains the bullet. The .375 bullet provides the big game hunter with the final word in versatility, and the cartridge which produces the highest possible velocity, is by default the most versatile, as it will do anything the lesser cartridges will, do it at lower pressure, and do some things they cannot. That being the case, perhaps the focus of the discussion should be on whose bullet: Hornady, Sierra, Trophy Bonded, Speer, Barnes, North Fork, A-Square, Matrix, Swift, GS Custom, Rhino, Woodleigh, and so on, is potentially the best and why.
 
I don't know why the big fuss over these two cartridges when the 378 Weatherby out performs both of theses cartridges, along with the Lazzeroni Saturn.........I guess that would make to much sense.d:h:
 
Track; you have a very valid point, but that would take all the fun, experimentation, learning, difference of opinion, discussion, comradeship, teasing, friendly harassment, and just good old fashioned rib poking out of the equation. Which leads us back to the first point in everybody having fun and few laughs.
 
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Track; you have a very valid point, but that would take all the fun, experimentation, learning, difference of opinion, discussion, comradeship, teasing, friendly harassment, and just good old fashioned rib poking out of the equation. Which leads us back to the first point in everybody having fun and few laughs.
Oh, OK, maybe I'll throw in a few myself and ......:stirthepot2:
 
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I don't know why the big fuss over these two cartridges when the 378 Weatherby out performs both of theses cartridges, along with the Lazzeroni Saturn.........I guess that would make to much sense.d:h:

It's about BALANCE. The New King has it , the 378 - not so much.
 
Incidentally, QuickLoad says a H&H driving a 270 gr TSX at 2925FPSp using rl15 is running at about 78950 psi. QuickLoad has been used in conjunction with actual pressure testing gear, and it seems it's computations are quite accurate most of the time.
 
It's about BALANCE. The New King has it , the 378 - not so much.
I'm not convinced as of yet about the 373 Ruger, because I know where a beautiful NIB 378 Weatherby Mark V is located. We can have a little bet, saaaaaaaaay for rifles. With all things equal, lets shoot at a 2 or 3 inch plate of steel at 300 yards, and who penetrates the deepest wins a new gun.
 
I'm not convinced as of yet about the 373 Ruger, because I know where a beautiful NIB 378 Weatherby Mark V is located. We can have a little bet, saaaaaaaaay for rifles. With all things equal, lets shoot at a 2 or 3 inch plate of steel at 300 yards, and who penetrates the deepest wins a new gun.

Not much seems to penetrate the Ar-500 plates we shoot at much. But you should buy that 378 WBY and let us know how it works out.
 
QUOTE=Gatehouse;9821544]Not much seems to penetrate the Ar-500 plates we shoot at much. But you should buy that 378 WBY and let us know how it works out.[/QUOTE]

I'll pass on the 378 WBY, my shoulder and head could not take that kind of pounding. Besides, I just purchased a firearm last month and my funds are purged.
 
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