12 vs 20 gauge - Recoil comparison & recommendations for a woman?
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manbearpig
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you said nothing about wood vs plastic. you said an Express will 'especially kick the crap out of you'.
the Express wood stocks are no different from the Wingmaster wood stocks aside from the finish and wood grade.
does finish and wood grade affect recoil?
the Express wood stocks are no different from the Wingmaster wood stocks aside from the finish and wood grade.
does finish and wood grade affect recoil?
you said nothing about wood vs plastic. you said an Express will 'especially kick the crap out of you'.
the Express wood stocks are no different from the Wingmaster wood stocks aside from the finish.
To clarify the express I owned was a synthetic stock model monte carlo stock 26" barrel. The Wingmaster was an older wood model with a monte carlo stock and 30" barrel. The wingmaster's recoil was significantly less.
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i see. so youre weaseling out of your gun snob statement by saying that you meant:
'lighter weight shorter barreled synthetic 870 Expresses recoil more than heavier ancient 30" barreled wood stocked Wingmasters'.
when what you really said was:
its no secret that weight affects recoil. a 6lb gun will recoil harder than a 7lb one. whether or not its an Express or Wingmaster is absolutely irrelevant.
'lighter weight shorter barreled synthetic 870 Expresses recoil more than heavier ancient 30" barreled wood stocked Wingmasters'.
when what you really said was:
its no secret that weight affects recoil. a 6lb gun will recoil harder than a 7lb one. whether or not its an Express or Wingmaster is absolutely irrelevant.
i see. so youre weaseling out of your gun snob statement by saying that you meant:
'lighter weight shorter barreled synthetic 870 Expresses recoil more than heavier ancient 30" barreled wood stocked Wingmasters'.
when what you really said was:
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I'm not sure how accurate the following is. I don't perceive recoil as sensitively as many others do.
I heard that weight behind the chamber is directly related to the amount of perceived recoil. So, maybe Win/64 has a valid argument because of the Express models having a lighter, hollow polymer buttstock.
Peace out.
I heard that weight behind the chamber is directly related to the amount of perceived recoil. So, maybe Win/64 has a valid argument because of the Express models having a lighter, hollow polymer buttstock.
Peace out.
manbearpig
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yes.
half the Expresses I see in any gun catalogue come with wood stocks.
regardless, a synthetic and wood Express weigh practically the same amount.
(7 1/2lbs for 28" barrel, 7 1/4lbs for 26").
Overall weight is a direct factor where recoil is concerned.Felt recoil is also determined by the fit of the gun,the balance,and if a recoil pad or muzzle brake is being used.I personally find more muzzle heavy guns more comfortable to shoot,even if the overall weight is the same.
Actually no, my suggestions were primarily for hunting, with skeet as a second activity which is what the OP was seeking. I don't recommend a pump gun for the "more formal, competitive shooting."
I disagree with the Knox recommendation. I believe it's a poor recommendation for anyone who wants to learn to wingshoot.
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which is why i recommended she try the factory short LOP stock with the Supercell pad first, and if the recoil is still unbearable then pick up a recoil reducing stock. they make the CompStock for 20ga and that one is totally conventionally shaped.
what caught my eye in the first post is that she refers to a Mini-14 as strong recoil. thats why i recommended a Knoxx: nothing else makes quite such a dramatic difference in felt recoil.
If you look at the equations used to calculate recoil,they include velocity as a factor.If a shorter barrel produces less velocity,then the actual recoil is less as well.Of course that assumes that the weight is the same for both barrel lengths,which may be true if the guns are different makes or models.If the guns are the same except for barrel length,the shorter barreled gun will likely be lighter,so the reduced weight will likely offset the decreased velocity.
http://www.huntamerica.com/recoil_calculator/
manbearpig
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its certainly true for Dlask barrels.... a 12.5" Dlask barrel feels like it weighs as much as a 28" factory barrel.
which is why i recommended she try the factory short LOP stock with the Supercell pad first, and if the recoil is still unbearable then pick up a recoil reducing stock. they make the CompStock for 20ga and that one is totally conventionally shaped.
what caught my eye in the first post is that she refers to a Mini-14 as strong recoil. thats why i recommended a Knoxx: nothing else makes quite such a dramatic difference in felt recoil.
That looks like a piece of junk.
manbearpig
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more Fudd 'experience' talking?
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On review of this thread, all I have really gleaned from it is that manbearpig has a lot to learn, and is quite arrogant. Noted. Just too bad that's the something new I learned today.
