1911 in 9mm for 3-Gun?

You guys are hilarious.

All semi-auto pistols jam.
Some more often than others.

But apparently yours never has, and never will.
 
I see no problem with a 1911 for three gun at all especially in 9mm. I usually use a shadow but shot a few matches this past summer with my .45 1911 and it had no negative impact on my standing at the end of the day. Other than slightly slower reloads which I am remedying with a magwel its all about practice with what you want to shoot... And reliable chip McCormick mags.
 
No issues with 1911 in 9mm (or 45) for 3-gun. I know several very competitive folks who run 1911 9mm in matches alll year long with no more jams/issues than than striker fired pistols. if you are slow at reloads with a 1911 then you have to practice more. The side benefit of all that practise is that once you are fast at 1911 reloads, you will be blazing fast at double-stack reloads. :)
 
Dexter Morgan said:
You guys are hilarious.

All semi-auto pistols jam.
Some more often than others.

But appaently yours never has, and never will.
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1911's are easy for users to take a giant crap all over them on anonymous forums because there are a plethora of companies making them and prices range from 300 to well over 3000 which obviously leaves room for crappy jamomatic guns to make it out into the wilderness.

If every sweat shop was pumping out as many knock-offs of any other name brand polymer wonder I'm sure a lot of them would fail too.
 
When it comes to abandoning the pistol in the dump bucket, striker fired guns require fewer steps and can simply not have the safety bumped "off" in the box.. not that 1911's aren't used.. just one advantage of the striker guns.
 
9mm 1911s have two problems that make them less reliable than other pistols.

1. 9mm luger has a tapered case. It was designed to be used in double-stack magazines.
When used in a single-stack magazine, there is always some slop between the rounds at the case mouth.
This fact is unavoidable, unless you were to use a curved magazine design like an AK rifle.

2. The feed angle is poor. There's too much vertical vs horizontal travel for the rounds to enter the chamber.
It's just like the difference between the stairs in a really old house vs the stairs in a newer built house.
The old stairs are still usable. But the odds of tripping and falling are much higher.

These are absolute facts. Not some fantasy.
 
Fun fact: 9mm was developed for the single stack magazine of the P-08 Luger pistol which itself was adapted from the previous 7,65x25mm Borchardt pistol which also used a single stack magazine.

Dexter Morgan said:
9mm 1911s have two problems that make them less reliable than other pistols.

1. 9mm luger has a tapered case. It was designed to be used in double-stack magazines.
When used in a single-stack magazine, there is always some slop between the rounds at the case mouth.
This fact is unavoidable, unless you were to use a curved magazine design like an AK rifle.

2. The feed angle is poor. There's too much vertical vs horizontal travel for the rounds to enter the chamber.
It's just like the difference between the stairs in a really old house vs the stairs in a newer built house.
The old stairs are still usable. But the odds of tripping and falling are much higher.

These are absolute facts. Not some fantasy.
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:)
 
I can only speak to the reliability of my 9mm 1911 and it has been very good. It is a very heavy pistol but unlike the Jericho (which IMO is a overated hunk of crap) balances nicely. Very shootable gun.

I do however believe that they are best suited for full power handloads as oppose to factory ammo. The factory ammo is too light to cycle it. The slide is a heavy unit and is designed for a more powerful round like the 45acp. Fortunately when handloading there is a bit of room to crank up the power.

Bottom line- It loves HOT 9mm. Factory loads are too light.

Also I don't know about 3-gun. I tried that once and only fired 19 pistol rds the entire day. Loading a shotgun is apparently was more important than actual shooting.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
9mm 1911s have two problems that make them less reliable than other pistols.

1. 9mm luger has a tapered case. It was designed to be used in double-stack magazines.
When used in a single-stack magazine, there is always some slop between the rounds at the case mouth.
This fact is unavoidable, unless you were to use a curved magazine design like an AK rifle.

2. The feed angle is poor. There's too much vertical vs horizontal travel for the rounds to enter the chamber.
It's just like the difference between the stairs in a really old house vs the stairs in a newer built house.
The old stairs are still usable. But the odds of tripping and falling are much higher.

These are absolute facts. Not some fantasy.
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Absolute facts in your fantasy world maybe. Horse$hit anywhere else.
 
Here's the awesome feed angle of a 9mm 1911.

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I've got an older NP-29 from Marstar, the one without the grooves on the slide and the horribly stinky wraparound rubber grips.

It is dead, steady, reliable with everything I have fed it, bulk ball, factory HPs, my buddies reloads. It is an ammo eating pig.

It is also fun to shoot, even though the sights are too small for my old eyes.

At one time I had it on my ATC and carried it in the bush..................

If I ever have to pistol whip a zombie, I'd prefer it to my GLOCK17.............................
 
Fun fact: 9mm was developed for the single stack magazine of the P-08 Luger pistol which itself was adapted from the previous 7,65x25mm Borchardt pistol which also used a single stack magazine.
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Funner Fact: The original Luger pistol magazines were made on a ridiculous forward angle. Not straight up and down.
Rounds were staggered in front of each other. Not directly on top of each other.

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Funnest Fact:The 9mm Luger cartridge only became a real success after the double-stack magazine was invented to go with it.
 
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