22 for Deer

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Several decades ago, I shot a big cow moose with the 22 WMR.
One shot right in front of her ear, and she collapsed like a wet
dishrag. Range was about 60 yards.

Had a close friend who harvested deer regularly with the 22 LR
He shot them in the lungs, and just waited. He said they sometimes
would just twitch, then wander off a bit and lay down, Dead in 15
minutes.

Not recommending either rimfire, but they will do the job if used
properly and skillfully. EE.
 
Pretty much all farmers routinely used .22 rimfires for putting down beef. One shot just above the eyes in the forehead and it’s lights out. Guy came over to my friends farm to buy a beef and brought his new .17 hmr to administer the coup de grass and must have took 10 shots between the eyes before the steer finally went down.
 
I had a racoon infestation once, had to deal with quite a few of them. Used 22 hollow points, head shots at point blank range. Not a single one took less than three shots. I can't even imagine trying to do larger game from a greater distance.
308 rounds don't cost that much more. Take a few extra shifts, work some over time, whatever it takes to get a few extra dollars, then get the rounds you need for a good clean kill and stop this malarkey.
 
I once killed a deer with a 12 gauge and a STS trap load of 7 1/2s.
It was laying in the middle of hwy 43 with broken legs and my clays gun was what I had on hand.
It worked. Range was ….well, pretty close.
Muzzle velocity was 1100 fps. ME with 1 1/8 load way higher than a 22 LR.
So 22 LR or 12 gauge trap loads or neither?
Looking back given that it was dark on a busy highway and an animal was suffering horribly I likely had the exact right tool for the job.
Instant kill. No ricocheting.
Doesn’t mean I would ever hunt deer with 7 1/2 trap loads.

Good on you mate!
 
I’m about the same weight as a deer, thinner hide but more fat cover. If hit by a .22 within a hundred yards or so I think I’d have a hard time walking it off.
 
Same reason I know Grizzly tags were only brought in because guys would say they were Bear Hunting, until they got something, then go buy a licence.
This country has only been settled for a century or so, the first half of that or more was pretty tough times for lots. A farmer would come in to the country store while his wife bought groceries and buy a moose tag. The usual response from the store keep was “nice, whad ja get?”
 
.22 Rimfire, .22 WMR will work under ideal conditions, but the risk of failure is considerably higher than using a higher velocity, higher energy round.

In this day and age, i think it is silly even having this discussion.
 
.22 Rimfire, .22 WMR will work under ideal conditions, but the risk of failure is considerably higher than using a higher velocity, higher energy round.

In this day and age, i think it is silly even having this discussion.

The discussion is not silly. Everyone thinks the status quo will always be. However, the possibility of drastic change is always there. What would be silly is attempting to take a deer with a 22 when there are better and legal calibers to use. However, if things should ever change the knowledge is good.
 
My grandfather hunted deer on many Christmas days, with the 22 long rifle, knowing that the game warden was at home eating turkey.
 
Pretty much all farmers routinely used .22 rimfires for putting down beef. One shot just above the eyes in the forehead and it’s lights out. Guy came over to my friends farm to buy a beef and brought his new .17 hmr to administer the coup de grass and must have took 10 shots between the eyes before the steer finally went down.

if he was using the 20 gr xtp load it would have been fine, the v-max too splashy and best for gophers, still killed coyotes well enough but the 17 gr tnt was just a little tougher and ideal for beavers and coyotes, the 20 gr xtp though just poked holes in the coyotes and you had them go 100 yards before you found them, at least 100...so that would be the bigger animal choice imo, it's a tough little pill that will get as deep as needed for all we've talked about here
 
Several decades ago, I shot a big cow moose with the 22 WMR.
One shot right in front of her ear, and she collapsed like a wet
dishrag. Range was about 60 yards.

Had a close friend who harvested deer regularly with the 22 LR
He shot them in the lungs, and just waited. He said they sometimes
would just twitch, then wander off a bit and lay down, Dead in 15
minutes.

Not recommending either rimfire, but they will do the job if used
properly and skillfully. EE.

I knew it was either in front of the ear or behind it from foggy recollection of the stories...you may have confirmed it, between the eye and the ear. Good story.
 
The discussion is not silly. Everyone thinks the status quo will always be. However, the possibility of drastic change is always there. What would be silly is attempting to take a deer with a 22 when there are better and legal calibers to use. However, if things should ever change the knowledge is good.

right or maybe someone gets in a survival situation with only a .22 on hand? maybe reading this thread will help save the day ;)
 
Seems pretty sensible to me, really.

Its effective if your shot placement is exactingly precise. MUCH more chances of finding your deer or at least it dying a humane death if you are an inch off with a more sensible choice.

Maybe you'd never be off, but lots of others would ;)


I mean a double lung with a 22 rimfire is gonna take a LONG time to kill. So is just nicking a heart. So is missing spine on a neckshot or brain with a headshot if someone tries those.

Same with a .243 or above? Not so much.

They could have implemented the rule after a 3 day drunk. Still seems like its going to result in less wounded/unrecovered game while very slightly inconveniencing hunters.

I mean if I said "hey, I'm gonna go pop some deer with 7.62x39 Chinese surplus!" I'd call me an a-hole and think most people would too lol.

Why would anyone call anyone an A Hole if one was to use a SKS on a deer? I know quite a few First Nation Hunters who uses such a rifle when hunting deer or larger animals.
 
So the cartridge minimum on bison in BC is for the same reason then?

No, but the Bison Rule is arbitrary. As far as I know none of the Jurisdictions with Bison hunts have the same rules, ya know, science or evidence should lead to the same conclusions.
 
I had a racoon infestation once, had to deal with quite a few of them. Used 22 hollow points, head shots at point blank range. Not a single one took less than three shots. I can't even imagine trying to do larger game from a greater distance.
308 rounds don't cost that much more. Take a few extra shifts, work some over time, whatever it takes to get a few extra dollars, then get the rounds you need for a good clean kill and stop this malarkey.

If it takes 3+ headshots to dispatch a raccoon that says something and it isn't about the effectiveness, or lack of, of the 22.

We don't have raccoons (yet) but I'd use the same as on skunks, 12G with #4 Lead Birdshot.
 
.22 Rimfire, .22 WMR will work under ideal conditions, but the risk of failure is considerably higher than using a higher velocity, higher energy round.

In this day and age, i think it is silly even having this discussion.

You're making assumptions. You see the same assumptions from guys who live in Jurisdictions that ban 22 Centerfires for Big Game hunting.

The powers that be in BC saw the proliferation of cheap 22 rifles so banned them for Big Game, they even wanted to ban them entirely for hunting ANYTHING but didn't. They never banned the 25 or 32 Rimfire until after they became obsolete and the rule became "rimfire" rather than "22 rimfire".
 
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