270 vs 30-06

Aw, come on Bigred, the squirrel/buffon/rabbit stories were way better than some silly debate about "obsolete" cartridges and especially those short, fat (ugly), newfangled, uneccesary WSM's and RSAUM's :lol: :lol: . I wanna hear if anybody's ever come across a Sasquatch? What would ya suggest fer pluggin' one 'o' them suckers besides a "proper" .270 Winchester or .300 Winchester Magnum... :wink:
 
icecold said:
30-06 is a very versatile caliber as has been mentioned here, I guess it come down to what you will be hunting. Long range deer, sheep, goats, cougars etc. I would believe the .270 is better. However a 7mm Magnum might be be ticket for moose grizzlies elk. My dearly departed friend shot bison, grizzlies, moose and elk with his 7mm mag. he also shot scores of deer, moose, cougar, black bears, and wolves with his 30-06 I personally own a .270 and like the legendary Jack O'Conner said "you would be hard pressed to find a better caliber than the .270" which he shot more north american game with than any other caliber. But hey we all have our favs for what ever reason. Just what ever you do is don't buy something that you are afraid of the recoil. shoot well, thoughtfully and consistantly and most rifles will do well
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How dare you! :evil:

Go share your intelligent, somewhat thought out posts somewhere else! :wink:

The .270 is a damn decent crow gun, the .30-06 makes me want to take a nap & the 7mm is metric - I'll be damned if I shoot an animal with a metric calber! 8)

Next "Hunting" forum poll:

Metric or Nom-Metric - which is deadlier on big game? :twisted:
 
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Next "Hunting" forum poll:

Metric or Nom-Metric - which is deadlier on big game? :twisted:
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WHoa!! GOOD ONE! :D

I never even thougth of that!

Actually, it would be fun to post that on an American board in a somewhat serious tone. :D

Page 6, here we come... :wink:
 
Foxer said:
It's a well known fact that the 323 is a known squirrel stopper, provided you manage a headshot.
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Well I'd have no doubt there Foxer, I'm sure it would work just fine if the shooter could do their part. It would be difficult to score the skull though if it was a trophy. :|

Besides I don't see the western red squirrel as a long range animial. You just don't see them grazing in a meadow accross the valley type of thing. Its normally in the thick stuff. Now I'll admitt a .22 lr will do fine and it has for years for the run of the mill squirrel. But with more and more huge mean nasty bad boys turning up I'll stick with the big slug at moderate speed. With my squirrel I not only got a trophy but you could eat right up to the hole :D

But, I figure the 450 Sqz will waste not a lot more meat and give me a little added confidence. :wink:
 
We don't have wild turkeys here in NB. I wish we did :|

While in Maine today I saw one on the side of the road. It was HUGE :!: :shock:

Do they ever charge @ humans :?:

SC..................
 
I'm very proud of you boys keeping this thread alive. It's been said more than once by more than just a couple of famous hunters and gun hacks that the 270 is a girlie man's rifle.

I believe that their exact words were "Which one this year, Steve? 30/06 or 30/06 Lite?" :shock:

Delicate fingers and creamy white skin
Always means the 270 wins

Hard to keep up with, mean and tough
Means a 30/06 is more than enough

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Steve tosses down the gauntlet:
I'm very proud of you boys keeping this thread alive. It's been said more than once by more than just a couple of famous hunters and gun hacks that the 270 is a girlie man's rifle.
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Funny thing is this caliber has been revamped as the new choice for the U.S. Military... Not to many girlie men in the Marines... Way back just after men fought with sharpened sticks the Military choice was 30-06... :wink: :mrgreen:
 
Clarke; you really did stir the pot didn't you :lol:

Well, have you decided on a caliber yet,270 v 30-06 :roll:

OR, are you still 'stirring' to see how much mileage that you can get out of this one :?: :lol:
 
I would look close at what bullet wt you want to shoot. the 270 is just a necked down 30-06. the short range tragectory of the 270 is good with 130s-150 however get your self a good balistics chart and see what happens long range.
Look at energy transfer and what type of game you will be hunting.
Theres no question both will work 270,280, or 30-06.
If you like the 277 caliber there are plenty of options other than the 270 win. WSM and Wby mags can be looked at.
I find the 270 is a bit more easy to shoot and easy to reload, however I dont mind the -06 either but some of my best groups with a hunting rifle have come with a 270 win.
You can also load down the 270 for varmint hunting something to concider.
You can compair all day long, who is to argue valid points between of these to big game cartriges 2 of the most popular to hit naorth america.
Some one named Jack may argue different. LOL!!!! but I have taken game with both without a blink of an eye.
 
The .270 is a damn decent crow gun, the .30-06 makes me want to take a nap & the 7mm is metric - I'll be damned if I shoot an animal with a metric calber!
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agilent one...yes glad you mentioned it "damned decent crow gun 8) i have bagged many a crow with with my .270 when out and about :mrgreen: , by the way laddie what did you say you liked for a caliber? or "did you"? :twisted: come on tell us dont be shy :wink: :lol:
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Besides I don't see the western red squirrel as a long range animial. You just don't see them grazing in a meadow accross the valley type of thing. Its normally in the thick stuff

Well that's everyone's fear isn't it, that someday you'll be walking thru the woods and you smell the distinct odour of buried nuts and hear that hair-raising heart stopping machine-gun chatter of a startled red - its' tail puffed in anger and eyes blazing - not more than a dozen yards from you, and you know it's going to defend its nuts to the death.

OH i know there are those who rely on peanut oil sprays to distract it, or say you're better off not fighting back, but instead rolling into a ball, or jumping inside an excecise wheel if there's one handy, but for my money your best choice at that point is a gun. And you've got that one shot to stop it before its up your pantleg and into your underoos - making a royal mess of your joy department.

Now there are those who suggest a shotgun loaded with alternating slugs and cornnuts is best, but i say stick with the slugs. As you say, you can eat right up to the hole. And by hole, i mean small crater, which will likely be found where the squirrel was standing when you fired.

Frightening to even think about it. But you know - that's the risk you take when you step out of our safe city and into the wild world.

All we can do is try to learn their ways and avoid encounters. There's some good books - When Squirrels Attack by Hererro is pretty good, or Columbia Greys -fact and fiction by Sheldon. "I heard the deer-mouse call my name" is an interesting work examining native beliefs about these noble but deadly creatures.

I hear urban encounters are up as well - but that's going to happen until these yuppie idiots quit eating harvest-nut cerial in their back yards.
 
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Besides I don't see the western red squirrel as a long range animial. You just don't see them grazing in a meadow accross the valley type of thing. Its normally in the thick stuff


Well that's everyone's fear isn't it, that someday you'll be walking thru the woods and you smell the distinct odour of buried nuts and hear that hair-raising heart stopping machine-gun chatter of a startled red - its' tail puffed in anger and eyes blazing - not more than a dozen yards from you, and you know it's going to defend its nuts to the death.

OH i know there are those who rely on peanut oil sprays to distract it, or say you're better off not fighting back, but instead rolling into a ball, or jumping inside an excecise wheel if there's one handy, but for my money your best choice at that point is a gun. And you've got that one shot to stop it before its up your pantleg and into your underoos - making a royal mess of your joy department.

Now there are those who suggest a shotgun loaded with alternating slugs and cornnuts is best, but i say stick with the slugs. As you say, you can eat right up to the hole. And by hole, i mean small crater, which will likely be found where the squirrel was standing when you fired.

Frightening to even think about it. But you know - that's the risk you take when you step out of our safe city and into the wild world.

All we can do is try to learn their ways and avoid encounters. There's some good books - When Squirrels Attack by Hererro is pretty good, or Columbia Greys -fact and fiction by Sheldon. "I heard the deer-mouse call my name" is an interesting work examining native beliefs about these noble but deadly creatures.

I hear urban encounters are up as well - but that's going to happen until these yuppie idiots quit eating harvest-nut cerial in their back yards.
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:lol: just keeps on getting better
 
Gonna make six pages yet, Gatehouse :lol: ...Damn Foxer, I've gotta go camping with the family this long weekend and I'm gettin' afeared as those deadly "western reds" are in the area. Not only that, but predatory snowshoe hare frequent the grounds as well :shock: I think this time my .30-06 bolt and 220gr RNSP just won't cut it. I mean, can you imagine a double charge involving a red/hare duo :shock: Perhaps with your speedy .30-06 pump gun in the above mentioned loading, but certainly not with a bolt rifle. Yes it's time to break out my peep sighted M71 lever stoked with .348 WCF heavy loads and hope to heaven I won't need to use it :roll: :lol: ...KF
 
Foxer said:
Well that's everyone's fear isn't it, that someday you'll be walking thru the woods and you smell the distinct odour of buried nuts and hear that hair-raising heart stopping machine-gun chatter of a startled red - its' tail puffed in anger and eyes blazing - not more than a dozen yards from you, and you know it's going to defend its nuts to the death.

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Now for those not experienced with the ways of the monster reds pay attention to the above for this man knows of what he speaks. It can be that fast- from a nice sunny day with the birds chirping to- suddenly- an attack from the red demon.

BC, I'm glad you won't let this stop you from going camping and, glad you have the foresight to go prepared. After all as we know the wilderness is not to be feared, just respected. And in big red' country that respect means a good smoke pole :D
 
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