270 Winchester

Pudelpointer said:
Recommends or requires? I would be wary of any PH that thinks bigger is always better. These are the same guys who shoot solids at dangerous game. Hmmm, lets poke a hole in a cape buffalo without any energy transfer and then shoot it five more times as it charges us, gee, I wonder if it has something to do with those solids? Nah, couldn't be. We've been shooting dangerous game with them for years, and they ALWAYS need more than one shot! F#*%ing idiots.

If he CAN use a 270, then he SHOULD use his 270. Hunt with what you are confident in, period. If penetration is a concern then shoot those awful Barnes X or better yet shoot FailSafes.

Cheers.
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Relax,
The issue isn't that he can't use it, he can if he wants. In Africa if you draw blood you pay whether you find the animal or not. These critters live in herds in desert atmospheres. If you polled most african PH's you would find a 30 calibre hole is easier to track than a 277. In my experience they are right, my son is now 6' and almost 200 lbs, reclil isn't an issue to him, we will be shooting TSX's in Africa. I've never read any book or article on Africa that suggested a 270 was the way to go. My feeling on the 270 is it's a great open country deer round, not the best, but one of the best. As a cartridge for larger game it is an acceptable minimum, it will work, but lots of cartridges work better period.
 
haggisbasher said:
:confused: HEY TODD, just realised what's with this 270 stuff :confused:
I thought you were a dedicated 260 guy :rolleyes: :confused:
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hah, well I am a dedicated 6.5 guy but Ive long since known that the 270 has alot of good virtues (flat shooting, pretty low recoil, good bullet selection, more than adequate performance downrange for almost anything in Canada).

260 is a bit better in my books still, but no point in hijacking this thread ;)
 
I think it's probably overkill for most deer out there. If I was exclusively hunting deer, sheep and antelope sized game, I'd favour a .25 or 6.5mm
 
I bought my first 270, used, in 1963. It shot so well, I put a better scope on it, a 6X Weaver! :D

Since then I have owned quite a few rilfes in this great caliber and put a lot of animals in the freezer using it: deer, moose, caribou, sheep and bear.

For about thirty years, the largest moose I ever shot was with one 130 gr Silvertip loaded ahead of a case full of the old Hodgon 4831 surplus powder. That bull was above tree line and so far away that I would be embarrassed to tell you. The rifle was a Husqvarna that I had put more than four thousand rounds through, while I was working for RUKO, the importer. Most of that was shooting chucks, and I knew the trajectory of that bullet very well.

Still a great cartridge! Just bought another one from griaguns. :cool:

Ted
 
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I've seen my hunting buddy's 270 in action for the last 20 years, they are no doubt very effective deer rifles. The moose he shot with it a few years ago would also agree! 130s seem to be great deer / antelope medicine while 150 Partitions do the trick on bigger stuff, all with out too much recoil.
 
I get the .270 influence from my old man. It is my primary rifle for big game in Alberta. Anyone who questions it is a fool or cant shoot worth a sh*t. Period!

But I am an Elmer Kieth fan. I dont share the same love my father does for the 270. But I do agree it can easily take down every North American big game animal with the right shot, once again bullet placement is key.

I shoot a very wide variety of cartridges, some for fun, some for back up, and some for hunting. But for deer, sheep and most of the others I hunt, I carry a .270.

The older version of me has hunted in AB, BC, Alaska and the Yukon since about 1969. About 25 of those years being a guide, and a very good one at that. A 270 was and always will be his best friend.

Trying to tell him a 270 is no good for anything bigger than deer, it is not going to happen.

One shot kills...
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There are far more than these, they are just an example.

I guess the old bastard did rub off on me a bit, he must have or I would be shooting something different most of the time. But I guess I cant argue with someone who has shot almost everything there is to shoot in NA with one rifle.
 
I have had every kind of .270 imaginable, I used a Remington 7400 with great success for a lot of years. That semi took Moose and bear and I even made my longest shot on a deer using 130 grain Core-Locked Remington factory loads. I even had a BPR in .270 for a while and that was a fast and wicked accurate rifle... shoulda kept that one.
The .270 is a versatile cartridge I have used 90 grain bullets on Varmints and killed coyotes at very long range. On a recent Moose hunt at Lac Souel I did a survey on the docks at the end of the Week and nine huge Bulls were killed with .270's using 150 grain bullets.
I just installed a trigger in an old Mauser kit gun re barrelled for .270, it ain't gonna replace my .270WSM but I will continue to use the .270, it's just a great cartridge.
another good thread...:cool:
 
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The only reason I bought a .270 was the regulation that doesn't allow larger calibers in my part of Southern Ontario. I wanted a larger game rifle but didn't want a caliber that I couldn't use closer to home.

This was in the days before the .270 WSM and .260 Remington and the only other alternative was the more expensive and harder to find .270 Weatherby.

In the intervening years I've shot a variety of game with the .270 Winchester and owned an assortment of rifles in the calibre. I haven't felt the need for anything bigger but if I did it wouldn't be the marginal increase to a .30-06 but into the .338/.375 range.
 
I have a Interarms Mark X in .270 with a fixed 4 power scope and I shoot the cheapest 130 grain amo I can find and group at around 1 1/4 inches at 100 yards. Also never had more than a one shot deer. I use failsafes for moose. Great gun. Plus I got it free.
 
todbartell said:
hah, well I am a dedicated 6.5 guy but Ive long since known that the 270 has alot of good virtues (flat shooting, pretty low recoil, good bullet selection, more than adequate performance downrange for almost anything in Canada).

260 is a bit better in my books still, but no point in hijacking this thread ;)
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Why not, you started it ;)
 
I shot Kudu, Rooibok (Impala), Warthog, Blesbok with one so did the old man he shot many Wildebeest with his 270 too.
That was at shorter bush-veld ranges and only one old wildebeest ever got away and that was because of bad shot placement.
Good cartridge me thinks
 
I've always wondered why some call the .270 too small, when they wouldn't hessitate to use a bow and arrow.......hmmmmm?
700 BDL DM for me
 
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