manbearpig
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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or just dumb?
.308, 00 buck, or slug for grizzly?!
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or just dumb?
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Hahaha no kidding...Or 9mm vs 45acp vs 40 cal vs 11mm...etc.
I often wonder if Bear experts like Gary Sheldon and others have peeked at these threads over the years, had a chuckle and quietly slipped out.
Seriously methinks someone needs to contact him and ask him to write a sticky post so we can all point to it and save the bandwidth, lol.
I wouldn't be surprised if Gary Shelton and Steve Herrero peeked in, although I don't know they do for sure. Pounder had a phone conversation with Gary a year or so ago with respect to starting up a polar bear defense course for tour operators, helicopter pilots, and Parks Canada working in the Churchill area. What impressed me was that Gary said right out of the gate that he had no polar bear experience and that it would be wrong to offer a comment on a subject that was outside of his experience. I should probably do likewise, and stick to what I know about polar bears when these grizzly threads come up.
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Comparing Polar bears to Griz is akin to comparing Griz to Blackies or Blackies to Panda Bears. Polar Bears are the most ferocious, more likely to follow through and finish the job, been subjected to the harshest env. conditions. I've never seen a guy with full grown pet polar bear before ever or some nutjob leaving amongst them.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Here I am, Boomer Treadwell taking my pet bear for a walk before lunch.
But all joking aside, all species of bear can exhibit behavior that is dangerous to people. The situation you are in with any particular bear might be dangerous or benign, and it can change from one to the other very quickly. I'm not comfortable with the notion that one species is more dangerous than another, because in my experience it is the circumstances at the time that dictate the outcome. But from what I have read and heard from people who have worked with both polar and grizzly bears, the grizzly is less social and has a larger personal space that could trigger a negative reaction once entered.
Sounds like the old cote from Jermiah Johnson. It's mans nature to fear what he doesn't understand, it might be the case he understands more than most when it comes to bears as a modern day Montana mountain man. Grizz attacks are extremely rare but when they happen having an extra set of shorts on hand would be helpful.
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Here I am, Boomer Treadwell taking my pet bear for a walk before lunch.
But all joking aside, all species of bear can exhibit behavior that is dangerous to people. The situation you are in with any particular bear might be dangerous or benign, and it can change from one to the other very quickly. I'm not comfortable with the notion that one species is more dangerous than another, because in my experience it is the circumstances at the time that dictate the outcome. But from what I have read and heard from people who have worked with both polar and grizzly bears, the grizzly is less social and has a larger personal space that could trigger a negative reaction once entered.
Is that 12g? Thats a cute bear looks like Knut from the Berlin zoo.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Yup, my 590 Mossberg, stuffed full of Brennekes.
So Boomer lives day in a day out with the largest predator in the world, and still chooses the inadequete shotgun? Heresay of heresays! 
Great pics Boomer. Are whales a common sight to see washed up on shore?
Great pics Boomer. Are whales a common sight to see washed up on shore?
And if you NEEDED to use more, you wouldn't have had it.
I put a survival kit and shovel in my car in case I need it.
I wear a helmet on my snowmobile so I have less chance of injury in the case that I fall off.
I wear a PFD while paddling a canoe to prevent my drowing should I capsize or become incapacitated.
I wear a seat belt to help minimize the chance of injury in the even of an accident.
I've been canoeing, snowmobiling, and riding in vehicles for a long time, and have never capsized a canoe (without doing it purposely), I've never gotten into a snowmobile/car accident/been in a disabled vehicle. However, it gives me great piece of mind to know that these safety items are there, should there be an emergency and I would need them. It's not about an immediate need for these items.
I feel the same way about a sufficient firearm in an area where animals may be dangerous.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
It depends on the year, last year there were a couple of carcasses close by that I knew about. Actually on the day those pics were taken, we saw that bear and started to follow him and he led us right to the carcass. As you can see, it hadn't been there for more than a single tide or it would have been partially buried in sand. There weren't even many gulls around. Often in the river, dead whale calves wash up, again, some years you see quite a few other years you don't. Last summer was an exceptional year for whales. A stats guy up here on vacation told the boat operator that based on his calculation there could of been as many as 10,000 whales in the river. I won't argue, at times it looked as if you could walk across the river on their backs. Most often 3000 whales is the number quoted for the number of whales that come into the river, but where that number comes from I don't know, but everyone knowingly says, "Yup, there's 3000 whales in the river!" I guess the boat operators get a pretty good feel for what's there.
As for the shotgun, I'm not sure why I was carrying it that day, maybe it was just what was in the truck. Usually I keep the shotgun for around town and carry my .375 when I'm going farther afield. I don't feel any less safe with the shotgun than I do with the rifle, and after dark I like the shotgun better. Every now an then when all I've got with me is my .44 belt gun, I've wished I had a long gun, but I know that in a pinch it will work.
As for the shotgun, I'm not sure why I was carrying it that day, maybe it was just what was in the truck. Usually I keep the shotgun for around town and carry my .375 when I'm going farther afield. I don't feel any less safe with the shotgun than I do with the rifle, and after dark I like the shotgun better. Every now an then when all I've got with me is my .44 belt gun, I've wished I had a long gun, but I know that in a pinch it will work.
No most definitely wouldn't I would shoot it on its first false charge...
Look out Ned! It's coming right for us! Bang! Bang! Bang!
Is he dead?
Not sure...
Bang! Bang! Bang!
... ... ...
Yeah he's dead... Let's change our shorts now...
Jeff (who had a bear come into his tent when camping illegally and unarmed in Banff 20 years ago...)
