308 vs 7-08 for all round hunting...

bearkilr said:
What's she going to be hunting? If deer is the biggest animal then the 7mm would be OK but throw elk or moose into the mix and the 308 wins hands down. You can look at all kinds of energy figures on paper, but the 308 is just one of those calibers that performs better on animals than it should.
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140 grain Accubonds through a 7mm-08 = dead moose. I disagree that you need a 308 over a 7mm to tip over moose.
 
At hunting distances the ballistic differences between are so slight it's not even worth comparing! The only drawback the 7mm-08 Rem has is the poor selection and limited availability of ammunition. 308 Win ammunition on the other hand can be found absolutely everywhere and most place will have at least a half dozen different loads. If you don't travel, don't care about the price of ammo or if you are the type to stock up on ammo, then the 7mm-08 is a marvelous chambering. The 308 is the standard by which all others are judged...except maybe the 30-06!

Have no worries about using the 7mm-08 for moose or elk...put the bullet in the vitals and you'll have meat to put in the freezer!!!
 
I don't usually throw my two cents in.........I let you guys do that but I have borrowed the wifes 7-08 a couple of times and have had no trouble wackin a swamp donkey or two with it and 160gr Grand slams it's one deadly little cartridge and fun to shoot taboot. But that dosen't help you much. Both will do a fine job so the choice is ultimately on personal preference and 308 ammo always easier to find.
 
.308 is the way to go if limited to factory ammo on the basis of cost and availability.
 
bearkilr said:
That's fine you disagree, it's a free world. I'd use neither the 308 or 7-08, with the nod going to my 338 or 375. I prefer big holes, little tracking, and short distance packing. :cheers:
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I won't argue that, we all have our preferences and there's no such thing as a perfect caliber - that's why we need one of each!
 
you're handicapping the 308 by using the 150 grain bullet- if you want the do-everything round, you want 308/165 or 308/180- those are the two best bullets for the 308
 
harv3589 said:
But I don't reload so factory offerings in the 7-08 are really limited...
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+1 on 7-08

120 or 140 grain federal fusions are available over the counter. I'm new to the 7-08 myself. I purchased a 700 knowing rounds would be scarce. It's not the end of the world if not shooting a lot - just stock up after you find one you like.
 
What about a gut shot??? ;)

He said he prefers big holes!!!!!!


bearkilr said:
That's fine you disagree, it's a free world. I'd use neither the 308 or 7-08, with the nod going to my 338 or 375. I prefer big holes, little tracking, and short distance packing. :cheers:
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As for ammo availability , it's like forgetting your ticket to a concert, if you forget it you deserve to be on the sideline.By this logic the only rifles people should practically hunt with is a .243,270,303,308 and 30-06.Get over it already, buy what you like, buy your ammo ahead of time, and the rest will be fine.If you are 3 hours drive and 6 hours into the bush and you find you forgot your ammo guess what , you have no ammo no matter how common it is.;)

A rough guess would be that there is 20+ different types of ammo available for 7-08.

Oh, and take the 7-08 people that have used them know.
 
t-star said:
you're handicapping the 308 by using the 150 grain bullet- if you want the do-everything round, you want 308/165 or 308/180- those are the two best bullets for the 308
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Finally someone with some sense!!! t-star, if you reload try the Hornady 190 grain BTSPs ahead of Alliant RL15, CCI 200 primers and Hornady Match brass. Cheap bullets to buy but damn do they ever they produce some tight groups in my Rem 700 Varmint and 7600 pump. Have yet to recover a bullet in an animal as well.
 
VLT79 said:
Finally someone with some sense!!! t-star, if you reload try the Hornady 190 grain BTSPs ahead of Alliant RL15, CCI 200 primers and Hornady Match brass. Cheap bullets to buy but damn do they ever they produce some tight groups in my Rem 700 Varmint and 7600 pump. Have yet to recover a bullet in an animal as well.
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i don't use 190s as my magazine isn't long enough to chamber those and it's right at the end of my twist rate- i use 180s in my savage 99 ( 1/12) and 165/168 for the m14s- you gotta respect 41 YEARS of reloading- my load- 43-44 grains of ww748, 165 or 180 grain slug- served me well
 
I'll send you my addy for the cookie,times are tough, need to eat.

My point...................the thread is 7-08 vs .308(not 338 vs 375) and the differences are negligible when it comes right down to which is more effective at dispatching an animal.There is the bigger is better group, the faster is better group , the heavier is better group(yes applies to girlfriends too)Fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter, shoot with whatever you feel comfortable with and tickles your fancy.

Maybe start a 338 vs 375 thread.;)


bearkilr said:
Ha ha, you made a funny..... here's your free cookie.

I'd prefer a bigger hole through the guts as well, I don't get your point? :confused:
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You cant go wrong with either one, both are great cartridges, its like comparing 280 rem to a 30-06, spliting hairs with either. You may find more factory ammo for a 308 but that shouldnt be a factor. I've got a 284 win and never forgotten my ammo in 21 years of hunting with it and we know how common ammo is for that cartridge. Good luck with what ever you decide on. Pete
 
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