Sorry, I was too vague. It had no problem in the oomph department, but I just didn't like the stock fit and ergonomics. Thats what I meant by underwhelmed. Should have clarified. I just am commenting on the fit of rugers in general for me. Either the H & H or the Ruger have more than enough mustard for 98% of the worlds game. At this level , for me, its all about fit and finish. Its more important to get the one that fits. I haven't held a .375 H & H in my hands yet, in which I liked the RIFLE and how it shouldered. It all came together in a big way for me when I put this Ruger up and imagined big aszed hairy beasts goin down.
375 Ruger here to stay?
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bearkilr
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Once the novelty has worn off of owning a low priced "thumper", most new owners will realize it's really unnecessary for the North American game they're hunting and the rest can't handle the recoil. That leaves a few owners in Alaska and the Yukon who'll keep their stainless "grizzly defense" guns.
Those who actually use a 375 for its intended purpose, such as African hunting, will continue with the H&H. I don't think the caliber has caught on outside of North America. Marketing is targeted toward those who want a big bore, not those who need one, therefore sales will tank soon. Ruger is aiding the demise with the look of the new rifles chambered in that caliber.
Those who actually use a 375 for its intended purpose, such as African hunting, will continue with the H&H. I don't think the caliber has caught on outside of North America. Marketing is targeted toward those who want a big bore, not those who need one, therefore sales will tank soon. Ruger is aiding the demise with the look of the new rifles chambered in that caliber.
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And we have a Bingo folks!
oK, we all know gatehouse spouts off about "the new king" all the time, thats old hat, but it sounds like we have a new anti-gatehouse. As per above you say ammo sales are down, then you say this:
It sounds like you made a statement then actually contradicted that you actually new anything about it, then you demanded gatehouse to prove otherwise, but when you were asked to back up your statements you pleaded ignorant to how "copy and pasting the address of the web site"... Please...
If your telling others to put up or shut up, expect the same. Do you think we all really want the drama of another "375 rugers are so great or so horrible thread"?
Who f'ing cares. Any of the 375's should do, feel free to split hair all you want, but you may as well just add it to an existing thread, its already been said.
Nopers! Except for the part about the 2013 Rugers. bearkilr had that right, no doubt!
This! This here is a BINGO!
They all will work and work fine. If a guy likes the Ruger rifles, great! If not, get something else. That's great too!The 375Ruger isn't going anywhere. Well, unless they insist on continuing down the road of the '13 models...
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My guess, based on nothing but my own personal ability to see into the future, is that in about 15 to 20 years the 375 Ruger will be as popular as the 308 Norma is now.
The 308 Norma has a cult following, but no factory rifles are so chambered, and you can't buy any facotry ammo for it. But it's still a great chambering.
The 308 Norma has a cult following, but no factory rifles are so chambered, and you can't buy any facotry ammo for it. But it's still a great chambering.
Well EXCUSE ME that I'm not part of the computer age whiz kids, I also said (if you care to read) that I couldn't find where I saw those stats. Just because I can't quote chapter and verse of something I read in a mag or on the internet sometime in the last couple of months, does not make me a liar as implied. SO I said I would contact Ruger and Hornady and get it right from the horses mouth and share with all, what the actual manufactures say about it. Which I thought would eliminate any heresay and bias, but apparently even this isn't good enough for you.
Again if you would care to read, the issue is not ballistics and it never has been. The issue in this thread is referring to the future of the 375 Ruger, so your final statement is completely off point.
No one here, not Gatehouse or myself, has said there is significant difference in the two cartridges, ballistically.
You may also note for the future that I have never, ever posted a thread regarding the 375 Ruger or the 375 H&H.
The OP asked as to the future of the 375 Ruger, period. This was the only topic I repied to, unlike you who wants to make some personal pi$$ing contest out of it, attack me for not having computer skills, and basically call me a liar!!
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Ya, I guess you could say that, the part where you said ammo sales were down and then said later that you didnt know what the ammo sales were. But I never actually called you a liar...
So, on your mouse is what we call a "right click button"
when you find it try it out, you'll find you can select things by holding the "left click button" and then use the right click button copy them.
The header at the top of the webpage has what we call an "adress", this is the bit of text which starts with www. or http://www.
once you find the pages from which you've found all this information about how the 375R will be no more use the above steps to copy&paste so as to provide us a link, to back up what your saying.
there is no "computer aged whiz kid" stuff going on, select with your left mouse button, copy with with your right mouse button, then paste with your right click button.
So, on your mouse is what we call a "right click button"
when you find it try it out, you'll find you can select things by holding the "left click button" and then use the right click button copy them.
The header at the top of the webpage has what we call an "adress", this is the bit of text which starts with www. or http://www.
once you find the pages from which you've found all this information about how the 375R will be no more use the above steps to copy&paste so as to provide us a link, to back up what your saying.
there is no "computer aged whiz kid" stuff going on, select with your left mouse button, copy with with your right mouse button, then paste with your right click button.
Agreed, did that before my first one arrived and now have a lifetime supply.
Regardless of what happens with the existence of the cartridge, I'm set.
Yup. I'm in pretty good shape brass-wise but a couple of more boxes wouldn't hurt.
Yep, I have to agree the 375 ruger will go the way of the 8mm Remington magnum...not that there is anything wrong with the cartridge, it's just that it really doesn't do anything the century old and very popular 375 H&H will do.
For as far as which is "The King", only time will tell....in the immortal words of Highlander, Connor MacLeod: quote: "There can be only one!"
For as far as which is "The King", only time will tell....in the immortal words of Highlander, Connor MacLeod: quote: "There can be only one!"
I think time already decided ... back in 1912
Seriously, I never quite got the need for the .375 Ruger, particularly as the H&H already solved the problem so much better. The truth is, a .375 of any type is generally being looked upon as a dangerous game rifle. Perhaps not as its primary role at all times (since it's such a wonderful jack-of-all-trades and shoot-anything calibre). But the dangerous game criterion is always there. So what could be better than a .375 cartridge that feeds with utter reliability (ie: has lots of body taper), headspaces very positively (ie: has a belt), and runs at a modest chamber pressure (particularly when compared to the Ruger) making extraction issues less likely? While the .375 Ruger was designed to "solve a problem" (ie: how to put a .375 cartridge into a shorter, cheaper, lighter rifle), it hardly seems a problem worth solving -- because those "solutions" seem quite irrelevant to the task at hand, and potentially come at the cost of the very attributes that ARE relevant.
So here we are, with the H&H now being 101 years old, and still outselling the Ruger by a vast margin. It's not about which one wins the contest. There never was a contest.
Well, that's my 2 cents
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Neo, you said it well. X2!
The reason he never posted his "stats" is because they never existed.
Unless any of us buy that you have to be some sort of computer geek techno whiz kid to know how to post a link.
This is the same stuff that has been repeated over and over, and gets debunked every time.
The Ruger feeds with utter reliability. Every bullet I've tried in it I can feed using 2 fingers. But this shouldn't be surprising, since most of our rifle cartridges today are not tapered, and they all feed fine, unless there is something wrong with the rifle...
Belts aren't required for headspacing if you don't have a long tapered cartridge. At least 90% of the belted cartridges out there don't need the belt for headspace purposes!
SAAMI specs for Ruger pressure: 62 000 PSI
SAAMI specs for H&H pressure: 62 000 PSI
Hmmm???
Hmmm. Ruger feeds and extract effortlessly, headspaces the same way that all the other cartridges without a belt or rim do, uses the same pressure specs....You could even get the same velocity with lower pressure in the Ruger since there is a modest increase in case capacity with the NEW KING.
The Ruger feeds with utter reliability. Every bullet I've tried in it I can feed using 2 fingers. But this shouldn't be surprising, since most of our rifle cartridges today are not tapered, and they all feed fine, unless there is something wrong with the rifle...
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Belts aren't required for headspacing if you don't have a long tapered cartridge. At least 90% of the belted cartridges out there don't need the belt for headspace purposes!
SAAMI specs for Ruger pressure: 62 000 PSI
SAAMI specs for H&H pressure: 62 000 PSI
Hmmm???
Hmmm. Ruger feeds and extract effortlessly, headspaces the same way that all the other cartridges without a belt or rim do, uses the same pressure specs....You could even get the same velocity with lower pressure in the Ruger since there is a modest increase in case capacity with the NEW KING.
This is the same stuff that has been repeated over and over, and gets debunked every time.
The Ruger feeds with utter reliability. Every bullet I've tried in it I can feed using 2 fingers. But this shouldn't be surprising, since most of our rifle cartridges today are not tapered, and they all feed fine, unless there is something wrong with the rifle...
,
Belts aren't required for headspacing if you don't have a long tapered cartridge. At least 90% of the belted cartridges out there don't need the belt for headspace purposes!
SAAMI specs for Ruger pressure: 62 000 PSI
SAAMI specs for H&H pressure: 62 000 PSI
Hmmm???
Hmmm. Ruger feeds and extract effortlessly, headspaces the same way that all the other cartridges without a belt or rim do, uses the same pressure specs....You could even get the same velocity with lower pressure in the Ruger since there is a modest increase in case capacity with the NEW KING.
Ruger .375 THE NEW KING
Gatehouse THE NEW KING OF KINGS
All hail the new king of making people hate the 375: Gatehouse!
Seriously, it looks like a great caliber, I bought dies and brass the other year thinking I would grab one but didnt manage to find a lefty in an alaskan. Now Im broke and found a couple others so it doesnt matter. But Im still not sure if gate is trying to make people like it or hate it? Socially inept I figure with good intentions, more people here would be into it if he wasnt a one man parade spouting a proclaimed dominance.
Seriously, it looks like a great caliber, I bought dies and brass the other year thinking I would grab one but didnt manage to find a lefty in an alaskan. Now Im broke and found a couple others so it doesnt matter. But Im still not sure if gate is trying to make people like it or hate it? Socially inept I figure with good intentions, more people here would be into it if he wasnt a one man parade spouting a proclaimed dominance.
