375 Ruger

cdn shooter said:
Why are people here having such a hard time with the term obsolete? Just because the H&H is an obsolete design does not make it useless. I think we could all agree that the carb on an automobile is obsolete right, doesn't mean they don't work. The H&H case is in fact obsolete. If anyone wants to argue that fact then they need to show us a case with severe taper on the body and shoulder that has been released in the last say 40 years.

The 375 Ruger is the replacement for the H&H, may as well go get one. I mean you all are driving with fuel injection right?
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An obsolete cartridge is one that ammunition is no longer made for and right now there is a lot more ammo made for the H&H than for the Ruger.
The 375 H&H will be around long after we are dead and gone...
 
cdn shooter said:
Why are people here having such a hard time with the term obsolete? Just because the H&H is an obsolete design does not make it useless. I think we could all agree that the carb on an automobile is obsolete right, doesn't mean they don't work. The H&H case is in fact obsolete. If anyone wants to argue that fact then they need to show us a case with severe taper on the body and shoulder that has been released in the last say 40 years.

The 375 Ruger is the replacement for the H&H, may as well go get one. I mean you all are driving with fuel injection right?
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So, how many popular and well liked cartridges have been invented in the last 40 years?..... out of the most popular cartridges right now quite a few, if not the majority are tapered cartridges....
 
cdn shooter said:
Why are people here having such a hard time with the term obsolete? Just because the H&H is an obsolete design does not make it useless. I think we could all agree that the carb on an automobile is obsolete right, doesn't mean they don't work. The H&H case is in fact obsolete. If anyone wants to argue that fact then they need to show us a case with severe taper on the body and shoulder that has been released in the last say 40 years.

The 375 Ruger is the replacement for the H&H, may as well go get one. I mean you all are driving with fuel injection right?
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I think the last really tapered cartridge that was introduced was the 7.62x39, near the end of WWII. There might be others that I can't think of right now, but the x39 stands out due to it's massive production. A few years after that, the .308 was introduced, with minimal taper, and cartridges started looking much more like that. Most of the belted magnum cartridges based on the H&H case are also blown out with less taper and sharper shoulders, taking the obsolete tapered H&H case and making it modern for their times. Cases like the 375 Ruger are the next evolution, removing the superfluous belt and replacing that space with case capacity. Other variations on a similar theme include the short and fats (WSM/SAUM)

A case could be made that most of the belted magnums are on the edge of obsolescence due to the unneeded belt. Again this doesn't mean that they are useless, just that nobody would design a cartridge these days with a belt. Except Weatherby I suppose, and I think that's just because their marketing is so tied to belted cases.
 
Gatehouse said:
I think the last really tapered cartridge that was introduced was the 7.62x39, near the end of WWII. There might be others that I can't think of right now, but the x39 stands out due to it's massive production. A few years after that, the .308 was introduced, with minimal taper, and cartridges started looking much more like that. Most of the belted magnum cartridges based on the H&H case are also blown out with less taper and sharper shoulders, taking the obsolete tapered H&H case and making it modern for their times. Cases like the 375 Ruger are the next evolution, removing the superfluous belt and replacing that space with case capacity. Other variations on a similar theme include the short and fats (WSM/SAUM)

A case could be made that most of the belted magnums are on the edge of obsolescence due to the unneeded belt. Again this doesn't mean that they are useless, just that nobody would design a cartridge these days with a belt. Except Weatherby I suppose, and I think that's just because their marketing is so tied to belted cases.
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Boom :dancingbanana:
 
I think the 30-06 cartridge was near the beginning of the rimless and more straight case evolution, especially when compared to cases like the 30-30 Winchester.
 
emerson said:
I like the 375 Ruger. I like my CZ too. Wish they went together. A Ruger Guide gun shouldn't cost more than a CZ.
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Depends which side of the fence you sit on.... I really like my Ruger guide gun, but it's up for sale right now because it doesn't fit my collection well.....

They are very well built guns that mean business and carry as such..... and the irons are awesome....

I also really like CZ rifles, so I certainly don't think they are a bad choice....

Oddly enough, in keeping with the theme of the thread, the guide gun is a .338 win mag (H&H descendant).... just took the scope off of it and put it on a .350 rem mag (close to obsolete by some definitions, and closer to obsolete than anything H&H by my definition) and the guide gun is being sold to fund the purchase of a 300 win mag...... a tapered belted magnum that is apparently obsolete even though I can get the ammo at Canadian tire...... oddly enough, no 375 ruger ammo on the shelf though.......
 
Purple shoulder said:
Most of the time when I mention the failing 375 Ruger, people say "375 H+H you mean". Lots of people have never heard of the failing 375 Ruger.
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I've never heard of the "failing" 375 Ruger either.

I've heard of the "375 Ruger, NEW KING of the .375 caliber cartridges" though.


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375 Ruger keeps getting more popular, and for good reason.
 
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