4 moose shot
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If those four moose were shot by licenses hunters, the hunters would all be charged for hunting out of season, and their hunting privileges would be suspended , so they wouldn't be shooting any more moose for years to come. On the other hand, those native may be out shooting more moose today.
i am not under any circumstances disagreeing with you
i am going to throw this out there
i know of one white canadian who shot 5 calf elk in one session
then 7 moose in another
i also know of Ukrainians who every spring,net creeks for the sucker fish.
they bag 100's of them.
one Ukrainian ask me how many moose had i shot last year,i told him none,he laughed as he had bagged 3 calves.
i have no more personal contact with any of the above.
Ya...but the candadian indians do it with 100% legal authority,
the law makes them untouchable,
no limit
morning noon and night, on a quad before noon or not
sober or not....read NOT...
SICKENING.....SICKININ.....BARFF...
The difference is that those people would be prosecuted for those offenses, while it would be totally legal for natives to do those things.
yep you are correct
which government is going to re write the treatys?
the CPC didnt
the liberals wont touch it
it will never change,never
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local to me is a bad elk problem.the local RM has a list of treaty card holders who they contact.
these treaty card holders come down AFTER late elk season and thin the elk herds out more.
the elk tags dont get increased every year and i wonder why.
this isnt BS as the landowners who's land i hunt on inform me that this truck etc will be around the fields etc etc
work that out
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bearkilr
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I'm not sure where you live, but here in MB there is no limit on suckers for anyone, all you need is a fishing license.
In regard to the 5 elk calves and 7 moose, that would be considered poaching as it's illegal, and he would get fined and convicted if caught. Did you consider reporting him? You should. DNR would get a search warrant for his freezers and it would be game over.
when is the last time, **if ever** an indian needed a license to kill/harvest/rape/abuse any meat/natural resource in canada??
Let my tax paying dollars answer that question:
NEVER
....I married wrong....should have studied the marital tax laws....
NOT THE PROBLEM....Hello....not sure which part of Canada you reside in....but since our government started gifting the NATIVES BILLIONS OF DOLLARS they all have new quads and new rifles and the game population has been ERADICATED.
They don't work, never have....but thank them for decimating the game population... and YES they are the problem....but govt pays em...
Tax dollars well spent.....EGH?
Shane Derocher
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Crazy stuff, I must have been at work the day they were giving out quads and rifles.
Did you report any of them?
Yes, they do so.
u...humm....not sure what your point is here...??
CAN Govt gifts (IE: giving out quads and rifles and homes and free dental and.......) to NATIVES (irregardless of bloodline of being a true native...- just show me a White Card right..?) billions annually. On top they are given fish/timber/mining/oil/water/etc......rights....
...suppose u could buy a couple toys with that cash flow...errgghh...?
What would happen if Canada broke the terms of the treaties? What if someone had the guts to say "enough, these treaties were supposed to be mutually beneficial to both parties, but now, since it is only beneficial to one side and is hindering the country's overall progress it is over. It's been a couple hundred years, take your lands which we now claim ownership of back if you feel you can."
Not that I recommend this sort of terrible politically incorrect action, (we aren't Russia [or Trump] here) and it won't happen, but hey, I'm just saying what if... I suspect a reduction of rights down to the same level as all other Canadians would do wonders in terms of increasing education levels, reducing crime and domestic violence, reducing the negative environmental impact, and completely eliminating said "racism".
Now for a bit of clarification, I spent a significant portion of my childhood growing up on a reserve. I know about the sleds and bicycles being chained inside our locked shed to prevent them from being stolen, from the beer bottles being thrown through the window of the van (twice), of the the neighbors getting drunk and screaming at each other at night. Of the neighbourhood kids coming over to make cookies, since if my family was really nice to them, they would respect our property. I know what it is like having the police swarm the street because the guy a few houses down was holding his baby hostage at gunpoint from his wife, I saw the terrified face of that mother when she showed up at our door to use the phone. While that situation was de-escalated at the time, he later committed suicide, so tell me how that was in any way successful.
The opening week of goose season there was no school, because none of the kids would be there anyways. The town was named after a big game animal that had long been hunted out of existence in that area. You would also hear about the rare occasion when a Polar bear would make it down the coast, because it had been shot. When working at a smaller reserve just north of there, my grandfather who worked in water treatment would regularly have kids throw rocks at them and their vehicles because they were "white" and not from there. Do you know what happens to brand new government funded school buildings and how long it takes for them to become trashed? I do.
While I realize that certainly not everyone of any background can be painted with the same brush, and some places are much better than others, I think something major needs to be done in order to rectify the overall needs of native people in Canada, because as it stands, something is very wrong at the core, and they either need help, or need to be left to fend for themselves. Anyway, whatever Canada has been trying to do for them, isn't working. I know many great people who are of native background, but they almost exclusively come from the hard working, tax paying, Canadian law abiding side, which unfortunately seems to be the exception, not the norm.
Not that I recommend this sort of terrible politically incorrect action, (we aren't Russia [or Trump] here) and it won't happen, but hey, I'm just saying what if... I suspect a reduction of rights down to the same level as all other Canadians would do wonders in terms of increasing education levels, reducing crime and domestic violence, reducing the negative environmental impact, and completely eliminating said "racism".
Now for a bit of clarification, I spent a significant portion of my childhood growing up on a reserve. I know about the sleds and bicycles being chained inside our locked shed to prevent them from being stolen, from the beer bottles being thrown through the window of the van (twice), of the the neighbors getting drunk and screaming at each other at night. Of the neighbourhood kids coming over to make cookies, since if my family was really nice to them, they would respect our property. I know what it is like having the police swarm the street because the guy a few houses down was holding his baby hostage at gunpoint from his wife, I saw the terrified face of that mother when she showed up at our door to use the phone. While that situation was de-escalated at the time, he later committed suicide, so tell me how that was in any way successful.
The opening week of goose season there was no school, because none of the kids would be there anyways. The town was named after a big game animal that had long been hunted out of existence in that area. You would also hear about the rare occasion when a Polar bear would make it down the coast, because it had been shot. When working at a smaller reserve just north of there, my grandfather who worked in water treatment would regularly have kids throw rocks at them and their vehicles because they were "white" and not from there. Do you know what happens to brand new government funded school buildings and how long it takes for them to become trashed? I do.
While I realize that certainly not everyone of any background can be painted with the same brush, and some places are much better than others, I think something major needs to be done in order to rectify the overall needs of native people in Canada, because as it stands, something is very wrong at the core, and they either need help, or need to be left to fend for themselves. Anyway, whatever Canada has been trying to do for them, isn't working. I know many great people who are of native background, but they almost exclusively come from the hard working, tax paying, Canadian law abiding side, which unfortunately seems to be the exception, not the norm.
I fully agree that it isn't working, and that something needs to change. The problem with most of it, is how the Indian Act is structured, and how the money is distributed to the bands. There are few, reaping the rewards on the backs of many. Most would get access to better programs off reservation, and would do better in the "public" or "white" system. unfortunately, there isn't much equality even amongst natives themselves. The money spent on the Indian Act annually is staggering, and if abolished, there would be significant savings for all Canadians, and better programs available to those that need them the most. I find it very sad that we will give refugees better treatment and programs than the Native population gives their own, but also understand the restrictions under the Indian Act. The rich get richer, and rest don't get much, depending on the band, of course.
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After visiting a few reserves in Alberta, the one thing that always stood out was that it was obvious as to which home belonged to the band chief. He always has by far the nicest home, and the nicest vehicles, in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of vehicles, snowmobiles etc in his yard, while other band members live in homes that are falling apart, and vehicles that are barely running. And yet, if you ask the band members who they blame, it is always the government, and never the band chief who takes the money that is meant for the band for himself.
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Why wouldn't it be legal? It's tradition and part of their cultural heritage...things we need to change.
My ancestors were vikings, looting and pillaging were part of our cultural heritage, yet our laws prevent me from dong those things.
