5 round limit for long guns? OUCH!

Since there are very few MP's and Senators that have a PAL or taken the CFSC, one should not expect common sense from those with no knowledge leading the sheeple of Central Canada with no knowledge about firearms nor what it takes to get re-elected.

Imagine having to weld plugs into revolvers to make them five-shots . . . LOL
 
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horseman2 - that maybe goes to what is "permanent"? - those "welded" plugs can be drilled out and honed back to function? If the welding originally was done in a way that did not mess up the heat treat on that cylinder??
 
The 5 round suggested change is proof positive that there is no respect for legal shooters despite the claims made by the Liberals.

They allways claimed Harper was in the pocket of the powerfull gun lobby, but Harper had anti's at the table and listened to them, the main difference was he also had gun stakeholders at the table and listened to them as well.

The Liberals have not listened to anything the gun community has said and have gone full retard. The evidence showed that for the last decade or so LAR 10 round pistol mags in semi autos were not a threat to public safety.

If detachable magazine restrictions are needed, a 10 round limit would have been much easier to accommodate and implement given that we already have a 10 round limits on pistols and that 10 round magazines are fairly standard in the industry. Banning most semi auto's and then limiting manual actions to the old dumb 5 round semi rule is twisting the knife and shows the true nature of their character.

I hope I don't have to change my signature line in the fall, but it looks like the Liberals don't trust anything beyond what their paid for with tax dollars expert pollsters tell them.
 
This guy makes 5 Round Tikka CTR.
https://mag3d.ca/product-category/tikka/tikka-ctr-magazines/

Now I do not know the quality, etc.

I assume the rule will be max five in mag, not a mag of 4 and then the +1 in the pipe = 5.
At least the gophers will be safe now as my .17 HMR rotary will be hard to ever get a 5 round mag for. Have to wait and see if this is rimfire exempt.


Here is the Toronto Homicide Most Wanted; https://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/mostwanted.php
..at least we are safe from them now as they will not be able to buy a restricted handgun....
 
Dogman01 said:
This guy makes 5 Round Tikka CTR.
https://mag3d.ca/product-category/tikka/tikka-ctr-magazines/

Now I do not know the quality, etc.

I assume the rule will be max five in mag, not a mag of 4 and then the +1 in the pipe = 5.
At least the gophers will be safe now as my .17 HMR rotary will be hard to ever get a 5 round mag for. Have to wait and see if this is rimfire exempt.


Here is the Toronto Homicide Most Wanted; https://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/mostwanted.php
..at least we are safe from them now as they will not be able to buy a restricted handgun....
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Thanks. I am going to reach out and ask about the .223 in 5 round (what I see listed is 8 rounder). Price is great, and definitely worth trying out...and I may order the 8 rounder anyway in case our bolt actions are spared from the 5-round limit.

EDIT: I received a note back from the owner/proprietor of the business. He doesn't have any 5-rounders of the T3X TAC A1 / CTR available at the moment (only 8 rounders) in .223, but he plans to make them soon, given recent developments.
 
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Potashminer said:
A curious thought - I was just looking at various makes and brands that I have here - I think I can cut / file / weld most all from 10 round to five round. But I do not have a Tikka to know if they could be done. And the curious part - the same tooling and skill could be used to make a short one into a longer one - so what is "permanent"? - about nothing "permanent", if it can be glued or welded to ...
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I 3D designed and printed a flat base for the T1x mag to get rid of the ugly guppy fin. It reduced capacity from 10 to 7.

Since it is polymer I expect the mag itself could be cut apart and glued back together to be 5 rounds but I'm not chancing the mag blowing apart and the guts and ammo ejecting all over the ground when I'm out shooting grouse.
 
I think with the T1X you could fill the bottom of the mag with gun bedding or JB weld once you establish the correct hight
but I think this is all speculation we will have to see exactly how it plays out even in newzealand center fire was limitted to 5 and rimfire 10 but no converting tube mags was allowed
only time will tell how this mess will play out
 
So my 30-06 has a 5 shot clip. I can also put one in the chamber so that makes it a six shot. Do I now have to find a 4 shot clip?

Another thought. Is anyone going to manufacture these little capacity clips in enough quantity to make them affordable? There are a lot of long guns in Canada but in reality we are a drop in the bucket compared to the world market so retooling aproduction to make small clips for a small market does not sound like what i would do as a company unless i could sell them at a price point that makes me money.
 
Sumonda said:
How about a pistol calibre carbine? My Ruger PC9 has 10rnd mags.. is that considered a "long Gun"?
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Yeah, I have one too and wondered the same thing.

Armalytics has it shown classified as a "rifle". The freeze is on "handguns" so thankfully it is unlikely to be interpreted as such and affected. As far as magazine capacity...PC Carbine takes a Glock mag. Glocks are under the "freeze". If they are subsequently banned, who knows if they will consider the Glock mags a banned magazine. But if they treat all carbines the same as rifles, I can see them imposing the 5 round limit.

BUT my bigger fear is what MM and company said yesterday that they plan to add more models to the already banned list via amendment. The Polys clearly have their ear and their recent list of models submitted to the government in early May includes every PCC currently in circulation (which obviously includes the PC Carbine) as well as a number of black and surplus rifles. So who knows - the 10 round mags may not matter if the PCCs get OICed and added to the already banned list.
 
thegazelle said:
Thanks. I am going to reach out and ask about the .223 in 5 round (what I see listed is 8 rounder). Price is great, and definitely worth trying out...and I may order the 8 rounder anyway in case our bolt actions are spared from the 5-round limit.

EDIT: I received a note back from the owner/proprietor of the business. He doesn't have any 5-rounders of the T3X TAC A1 / CTR available at the moment (only 8 rounders) in .223, but he plans to make them soon, given recent developments.
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I needed 5 round in 308 and he had those, he does reply promptly.
 
thegazelle said:
Yeah, I have one too and wondered the same thing.

Armalytics has it shown classified as a "rifle". The freeze is on "handguns" so thankfully it is unlikely to be interpreted as such and affected. As far as magazine capacity...PC Carbine takes a Glock mag. Glocks are under the "freeze". If they are subsequently banned, who knows if they will consider the Glock mags a banned magazine. But if they treat all carbines the same as rifles, I can see them imposing the 5 round limit.

BUT my bigger fear is what MM and company said yesterday that they plan to add more models to the already banned list via amendment. The Polys clearly have their ear and their recent list of models submitted to the government in early May includes every PCC currently in circulation (which obviously includes the PC Carbine) as well as a number of black and surplus rifles. So who knows - the 10 round mags may not matter if the PCCs get OICed and added to the already banned list.
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I suspect the absolute minimum is going to be a ban on using pistol mags in rifles. The LAR mags in particular have been in their cross hairs for a long time.
 
Potashminer said:
A curious thought - I was just looking at various makes and brands that I have here - I think I can cut / file / weld most all from 10 round to five round. But I do not have a Tikka to know if they could be done. And the curious part - the same tooling and skill could be used to make a short one into a longer one - so what is "permanent"? - about nothing "permanent", if it can be glued or welded to ...
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This will never happen, shotgun tubes, lever action tubes many varieties of boxed mags the bulk would be utterly impossible to modify, not to mention the destruction of the value. Don't forget their special people (the natives) many of them have the same guns we do, unless they get an exemption they will also be in the same boat. Logistical nightmare, will never happen, just using confusing language to sooth the media and appease the anti's. If they were to put in place ludicrous and unworkable magazine capacity requirements, those effected would just ignore on mass, then what? Hopefully soon the Turd will resign and we will get an election faster than the three years. Right now he is trying to do the legacy thing, and failing badly at it like he fails at everything.
 
Sumonda said:
How about a pistol calibre carbine? My Ruger PC9 has 10rnd mags.. is that considered a "long Gun"?
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I actually suspect that pistol calibre carbines is the exact reason why they are limiting all magazines to 10 rounds.

Effectively people were using the 10 round pistol mags as a loophole to get themselves a 10 round long gun - despite the long gun "5 round magazine" limit.

Whenever people push at loopholes there is a correction. This time it looks like they may have take it too far.
 
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