.50 Beowulf 3rd Party Magazines

rivetc78 said:
Well, Beowulf is not a company. It is a name given to a bullet.


There are 'Pistol' lowers "readily" available. Some are marked .223, 9mm or 'Multi'. Your point is invalid.
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Valid point from you. Would there not be a requirement to have a dedicated pistol stamped lower in a dedicated manufacturer for the specific 50 calibre with an FRT representing same?
 
fenceline said:
Valid point from you. Would there not be a requirement to have a dedicated pistol stamped lower in a dedicated manufacturer for the specific 50 calibre with an FRT representing same?
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That answer is beyond me. :)

You could argue that the caliber can be defined by the upper. One lower can shoot many different calibers.
 
I've said this before and I will say it again. Antis don't like 10rd lar mags but they didn't do anything to stop it, They sure don't like these .50 mags, but if you keep pushing and somehow are successful at getting a .50 pistol mag that allows what we all know, I can surely see the antis making a move. don't get me wrong I miss my 30rd ar15 mags that I use to clang away with back in the 80's, but we are not going to be left alone with a 10rd .50 pistol mag. Then we will likely lose the .50 rifle mags and maybe even the 10rd Lars. You just can't poke the fire like that and not get burned.

Moe
 
rivetc78 said:
That answer is beyond me. :)

You could argue that the caliber can be defined by the upper. One lower can shoot many different calibers.
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This is a fair point, but the upper would have to be a pistol length upper.

You'd have a hard time convincing someone that your 16" barrelled AR is a pistol.
 
Moe said:
I've said this before and I will say it again. Antis don't like 10rd lar mags but they didn't do anything to stop it, They sure don't like these .50 mags, but if you keep pushing and somehow are successful at getting a .50 pistol mag that allows what we all know, I can surely see the antis making a move. don't get me wrong I miss my 30rd ar15 mags that I use to clang away with back in the 80's, but we are not going to be left alone with a 10rd .50 pistol mag. Then we will likely lose the .50 rifle mags and maybe even the 10rd Lars. You just can't poke the fire like that and not get burned.

Moe
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Well... we don't like the anti's. Not only is it time to "poke the fire", it is time to stomp on it, pee on it, throw a wet blanket on it, everything possible to put that fire completely out. We don't roll over because of what the government or anti's might do or think, we do what is right and then bulldoze right over their nonsense. Time for Canadian Gun Owners to embrace our rights and hunting & shooting culture. We need to be more aggressive with our rights and how our organizations act, very similar to the USA.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Well... we don't like the anti's. Not only is it time to "poke the fire", it is time to stomp on it, pee on it, throw a wet blanket on it, everything possible to put that fire completely out. We don't roll over because of what the government or anti's might do or think, we do what is right and then bulldoze right over their nonsense. Time for Canadian Gun Owners to embrace our rights and hunting & shooting culture. We need to be more aggressive with our rights and how our organizations act, very similar to the USA.
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'Could not have said it any better.
 
burnaby said:
AND thanks for the advice from the "free enterprise country" and "free capitalist society" folks.

Next time a dealer sells hot product at a fair non gouging price like the $21-$25 bucks PMags the entrepreneurs will be sure to scoop them all up; then scalp them on EE. Heard that's what the Americans are doing.

Once the attitude of "If I don't scalp the next guy will" reaches the dealer don't scream bloody murder when they participate with inflated prices; Why shouldn't the dealer profit, seems fair enough. According to the "FREE ..." formula NR Magazine should sell these new mags between one to two hundred dollars each for a nice tidy profit.
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Yes he should, and I'd probably by 1 if he did.

If he charged $20, I'd probably buy 20 of them.

Thing is, he might make more profit from a quick sale of 20 $20 mags, than he would sale of 1 $200 mag.

Ever run your own business? If you sit on inventory, you can take a loss, especially if you have a business loan to service. Retail businesses make money by bulk ordering large quantity of inventory, often using business loans to do so, then sell their product rapidly with smaller margins to pay it off.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Time for Canadian Gun Owners to embrace our rights and hunting & shooting culture. We need to be more aggressive with our rights and how our organizations act, very similar to the USA.
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The only problem is that in our country, which is the only country that matters in this conversation, owning a firearm is not our right, it's a privilege we've had for centuries. We did not embed it in our charter. Until we do, we will not be afforded the freedoms that exist south of the border. I for one feel fortunate that we have restricted firearms and some degree of higher capacity magazines still available to us. Maintaining the current level of gun ownership is more important to me than pushing for more. In my opinion, it's not worth putting everything we as gun owners have achieved on the betting table to risk losing any more privileges. It's not the antis we need to fear provoking, it's the fence sitters and common citizens.

And anyways, once these mags are into full production, and become commonplace in citizens homes, then we can look to the next step, if any, that we should push for. Slow change is more likely to be permanent change. Patience grasshoppers! :)

As far as 'over-pricing' by the dealer for these magazines, although completely warranted (as the market dictates), the issue becomes opportunity for competition. You set a huge profit margin on high-desire items, and you will see many more dealers/manufacturers jumping in and tooling up to get a piece of the pie. You price them fairly to begin with, and you'll see less others fighting for a piece of the marketshare, and sell significantly more. Besides, as soon as any new-production non-AA mags hit the market, the prices would plummet regardless.
 
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richmyster said:
I found their website. The mags are pretty ugly looking. Do they hold the 15 rounds of .223 like the 50 Beowulf ones do?
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Do they what? I've never even considered loading a magazine with any ammunition other than what it was designed for...
 
We would appreciate if certain individuals would refrain from posting that CGNers should purchase magazines from Press Check Ventures in Northern Republic Magazines forum section. If that company wants to pay for a CGN sponsorship, you guys (you know who you are) can talk up their overcapacity (and quite possibly prohibited) magazines all you want in their forum. But don't do it in ours.

We want nothing to do with a product that intentionally uses a non-existent calibre as an excuse to cram extra 5.56mm rounds into a magazine.
 
NR Magazine said:
We would appreciate if certain individuals would refrain from posting that CGNers should purchase magazines from Press Check Ventures in Northern Republic Magazines forum section. If that company wants to pay for a CGN sponsorship, you guys (you know who you are) can talk up their overcapacity (and quite possibly prohibited) magazines all you want in their forum. But don't do it in ours.

We want nothing to do with a product that intentionally uses a non-existent calibre as an excuse to cram extra 5.56mm rounds into a magazine.
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NR please delete this whole thread and start a sticky on the 50 Beowolf please.
 
Why follow the law when you can make money? I support NR for doing it right, and wouldn't be caught dead with a sketchy ass marked magazine like that.
 
MegaMonkeyChunk said:
The RCMP would have jumped all over him by now if these were illegal.
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Or they are biding their time collecting evidence and building a case. The "former cartridge magazine control regulations" say "...cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in...", while the other company has designed a mag for no specific cartridge (calibre is irrelevant, it is the cartridge that matters) based on both the "literature" (loose term to describe the website FAQ) and the markings on the side of the mag. Either the other company is run by a legal genius, or yet-another-screwup who will soon enough be charged. I hope that doesn't happen, but don't know where else it could go.

Plus is it completely uncool to pollute a vendor's thread, in their own sub-forum, by hot-linking to a competing vendor's (esp. a non-supporting vendor's) product.
 
I know you are still waiting on the RCMP and didn't see this answer in the thread (maybe I missed it) but will your mags be the same size as a USGI mag in length? Just want to know if they will fit my pouches properly =)
 
jonesy67 said:
I know you are still waiting on the RCMP and didn't see this answer in the thread (maybe I missed it) but will your mags be the same size as a USGI mag in length? Just want to know if they will fit my pouches properly =)
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The magazine that we submitted to the RCMP for inspection was basically the same length and shape as a standard AR15 magazine. It's important to remember that these are in fact AR15 rifle magazines, they're just designed for feeding .50 Beowulf. However, the magazines are made of steel instead of typical aluminum, as is the case in most USGI magazines, including the official Alexander Arms mags. They're more robust, but the floor plate design is different due to the different composition materials.

Product testing has been done on these magazines using .50 Beowulf AR15 uppers and results have been favourable to date.
 
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