.50 Beowulf 3rd Party Magazines

Galtboy said:
Is any issues using the PCV 50 mags? Just bought a couple and this thread is stressing me out.
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I don't think they were ever confirmed as being legit and good to go since day one.


As for the fitting .223 into a Beowulf mag I knew this was gonna come with all the loud and proud loophole talk and YouTube videos. Soon it will be determined that shoving calibre A into a mag that is designated for calibre B is illegal.

Sometimes less is more.
 
Galtboy said:
Is any issues using the PCV 50 mags? Just bought a couple and this thread is stressing me out.
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To me they were not worth it. If you are concerned with being legal, why half ass being legal? I skipped the PCV ones and went straight for some skelpt AA ones. Got em at $116 a piece right before NR mags plan sh*t the bed. Since then most AA beo mags have been either exorbitantly overpriced or impossible to find.
 
I'm going to enjoy my BW mags as long as I can. It will likely be no long before the regs are changed to screw us folks who bought them.

Moe
 
Is any issues using the PCV 50 mags? Just bought a couple and this thread is stressing me out.
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I don't think those guys ever got any kind of permission to make those mags. They just went ahead and made them.

If they ever do get raided, expect the police to go through all of their sales ledgers and track down whoever bought mags from them.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I don't think those guys ever got any kind of permission to make those mags. They just went ahead and made them.

If they ever do get raided, expect the police to go through all of their sales ledgers and track down whoever bought mags from them.
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I bought a bunch under the name "Dexter Morgan". And signed it "my CGN handle"
 
I bought a bunch under the name "Dexter Morgan". And signed it "my CGN handle"
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If I had purchased any of those mags; They would already be cut up into little pieces, and dumped in the ocean.
 
If it is not illegal then I will enjoy then until I'm told I can't. I've already pre-ordered 10 rounders with ATRS so there is a backup plan. Basic issue with all this is I'm not a criminal and in my eyes am being treated as one. Criminals don't do courses, join ranges and abide by the laws. They scoff at the laws and do as they wish, one day I hope sanity will rule the day and the restrictions that hinder legal gun owners will be laid to rest. I would not even care if I had to take another course to get to use full capacity mags. They have an extra step in the US to get short barreled rifles, why not do the same thing here for mag and 12.6 guns????? If I want to jump through the hoops why can't i???
 
Dexter Morgan said:
If I had purchased any of those mags; They would already be cut up into little pieces, and dumped in the ocean.
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Why? Because of the RCMP bulletin on them?

you have a better chance getting ticketed for throwing #### in the ocean than a few non descript mags that no Leo could even identify.

and.... dexter Morgan would at least wrap the pieces in weighted garbage bags before dumping them in the ocean....
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I don't think those guys ever got any kind of permission to make those mags. They just went ahead and made them.

If they ever do get raided, expect the police to go through all of their sales ledgers and track down whoever bought mags from them.
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Why would anybody ask the rcmp's permission? A five round magazine for a semi auto firearm is not a controlled device in Canada. The RCMP have no say at all, in-spite of what they would like you to think.

If they ever get raided, for what? The RCMP wouldn't have a leg to stand on and they know it. Those guys claim they are making five round .50 cal magazines and it's none of the rcmp's business, much to their chagrin. Any judge would laugh about going though sales records for a non-controlled device. If they were going to get raided, it would have been done already.

It's no wonder Canada's gun control has reached this level. Canadian gun owners wet their pants every chance they get... I was selling a member a gun on here and he wanted to see a scan of my pal as he thought it was illegal for me to sell a gun if I didn't have a pal. Needless to say, he was told to pound sand. I see this as the same thing, relax, it's a five round magazine.
 
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9mms2k said:
Why would anybody ask the rcmp's permission? A five round magazine for a semi auto firearm is not a controlled device in Canada. The RCMP have no say at all, in-spite of what they would like you to think.

If they ever get raided, for what? The RCMP wouldn't have a leg to stand on and they know it. Those guys claim they are making five round .50 cal magazines and it's none of the rcmp's business, much to their chagrin. Any judge would laugh about going though sales records for a non-controlled device. If they were going to get raided, it would have been done already.

It's no wonder Canada's gun control has reached this level. Canadian gun owners wet their pants every chance they get... I was selling a member a gun on here and he wanted to see a scan of my pal as he thought it was illegal for me to sell a gun if I didn't have a pal. Needless to say, he was told to pound sand. I see this as the same thing, relax, it's a five round magazine.
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Finally! This 100 percent.
 
I see this as the same thing, relax, it's a five round magazine.
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Well the RCMP obviously don't see it the same way as you do. At least not with the Northern Republic magazines.


Sad news everyone...

I'm affraid this project will not be leaving the prototype phase. The RCMP have deemed our .50 Beowulf magazine as a "dual use" magazine because both .50 Beowulf and .223 Remington cartridges fit in it. Our hands are a bit tied on this one because despite changing the feedlips in our design to optimize cycling .50 beowulf, .223 cartridges still fit in the mag, and will essentially always fit in the magazine due to the shape of the .50 Beowulf cartridge and the limitations on magazine shape imposed by the lower receiver of an AR15 rifle, which was designed for the .223 Remington/5.56x45mm cartridge(s).
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Dexter Morgan said:
Well the RCMP obviously don't see it the same way as you do. At least not with the Northern Republic magazines.
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I'll remind you again, the RCMP don't make the laws.
The pre$$ €heck ventures magazine manufacturers didn't run to the RCMP to ask permission and yet nothing has happened. Why? Because they are making five round .50 cal magazines.
NR got scared and ran to the great over lords.... Not to mention all the dual use talk on CGN. It's no wonder the RCMP claim it's "dual use".

relax, it's none of the queen's cowboys business.
 
9mms2k said:
I'll remind you again, the RCMP don't make the laws.
The pre$$ €heck ventures magazine manufacturers didn't run to the RCMP to ask permission and yet nothing has happened. Why? Because they are making five round .50 cal magazines.
NR got scared and ran to the great over lords.... Not to mention all the dual use talk on CGN. It's no wonder the RCMP claim it's "dual use".

relax, it's none of the queen's cowboys business.
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No, but they are the enforcers, and the "on the spot" interpreters of the law. And even if later in a court room it is ruled that they were wrong, they still may have taken your gun, mags and put you thru the (stressful and expensive) ringer in the interim. Reality vs. theory...

BTW, I also think it's great that these kinds of mags have been made available by vendors. I bought 3 of the unmentionable mags. I sold them only b/c they didn't fit in my T97. However, I do see those mags as being on shakier legal ground than say, the AA Beo mags. Prima facie, they are legal, but I can imagine a judge agreeing w/ the police/Crown/AG that they were really intended for .223 and that stamping "50" on them was simply an attempt to divert attention away from their real intended use.
 
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bcbravo2zero said:
No, but they are the enforcers, and the "on the spot" interpreters of the law. And even if later in a court room it is ruled that they were wrong, they still may have taken your gun, mags and put you thru the (stressful and expensive) ringer in the interim. Reality vs. theory...

BTW, I also think it's great that these kinds of mags have made available by vendors. I bought 3 of the unmentionable mags. I sold them only b/c they didn't fit in my T97.
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Reality is that a five round magazine is legal. That's it, that's all... The RCMP know it or else they would have cracked down already.

This is a case a too much rope. Canadian gun owners don't know what to do with it so we're going to hang ourselves.
 
9mms2k said:
Reality is that a five round magazine is legal. That's it, that's all... The RCMP know it or else they would have cracked down already.

This is a case a too much rope. Canadian gun owners don't know what to do with it so we're going to hang ourselves.
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Practice law for a few yrs and then tell me that the plain wording of statute law is "that's it, that's all".
My fear is that they will find a way to ruin our fun...
 
bcbravo2zero said:
Practice law for a few yrs and then tell me that the plain wording of statute law is "that's it, that's all".
My fear is that they will find a way to ruin our fun...
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That is the goal of the RCMP, to ruin our fun. This is why, if you're going to make a perfectly legal product you don't ask if it's ok... They have an agenda, don't forget that.
 
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