I agree with an EE rule that says no fear mongering but there shouldnt be any rule against a simple WTB add stating you'll pay 500 bucks for a certain rifle. If so they should crack down on the used $250 sks, norinco 911 for $350, norinco AR for $700, etc etc etc
$500 Swiss Arms rifles WTB ad?
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Do you apply "pure capitalism" to your family ? to your friend ? now ? who can make "pure capitalism"
Well done Epoxy! I like the way you think. I was just looking at some WTS P-Mag adds, $50 each! That's retarded, I just bought some on Saturday for $22, and there was a huge bin of them, same with another gun shop I went to today. And from what I hear some sponsors here sell them for even cheaper than that. It kind of makes me want to go buy a bunch, and then sell them for whatever I paid with the shipping cost at my expense just to keep them from being successful at price gouging, and boost my trader rating. lol
*knock knock*
A-Who is there?
B- Provincial CFO
A-what do you want?
B-I am here to confiscate your SA rifle
A-I don't have one
B-Not according to the info provided by my counterpart in Quebec
A-Well, I use to have one, but I sold it to this guy on the internet go by the name Epoxy 7 for $500
B-@#?!*& this is the 5th one today, just how many did he buy? do you have a shipping address?
A-Sorry, can't help you there, I was paid in cash and we did the exchange at the local range.
A-Who is there?
B- Provincial CFO
A-what do you want?
B-I am here to confiscate your SA rifle
A-I don't have one
B-Not according to the info provided by my counterpart in Quebec
A-Well, I use to have one, but I sold it to this guy on the internet go by the name Epoxy 7 for $500
B-@#?!*& this is the 5th one today, just how many did he buy? do you have a shipping address?
A-Sorry, can't help you there, I was paid in cash and we did the exchange at the local range.
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NOOOOOOO, not that Black Eagle shotgun!!!!!!
So how is this different from people buying multiple KSG shotguns and trying to sell them for up to double the dealer price ???? ............ should be a rule against price gouging as well.........
Going down this road was their decision.
I know we're not forced to buy anything, but frankly I'm kinda turned off by all the ads on EE with a used rifle being sold for the full retail price, the assumption being that the buyer gets a deal because he doesn't have to pay the tax. What kind of stupid bullsheet is that! It must work cause they're all still doing it so that means people are buying.
I also don't believe the crap about "oh this rifle has only been shot 200 rounds and it sat in my safe for 4 years" yah right, a semi auto rifle being shot 200 rounds... come on, stop the bullsheet.
I also don't believe the crap about "oh this rifle has only been shot 200 rounds and it sat in my safe for 4 years" yah right, a semi auto rifle being shot 200 rounds... come on, stop the bullsheet.
In a free society were everyone has free will whats all the fuss about an EE ad to Buy a SA rifle for $500.00. Even if he were to buy a bunch and then resell whats the issue. Everyone could do the same thing! I for one just bypass the EE ads selling for more than retail and pass on the lowball ones as well.
I say let the market be the judge! Just like in Real Estate......
I say let the market be the judge! Just like in Real Estate......
blaxsun
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Not the PMAG analogy again, geez... Maybe we can bring up .50 Beowulf magazines, too. Swiss Arms could be worth normal prices or zero in exactly 5 days. The irony of course is that if the Swiss Arms is ruled prohibited, you won't see any selling at any price.
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Lets extend this rule to dealer prices too? We should regulate that as well.
Epoxy is cool with it, so as promised, here it all is so you guys can chew it over... As I said previously, Epoxy's ad generated some discussion & resulted in an amendment to the EE Rules.
The Original ad.
WTB Swiss Arms for $500 as could be reclassified
Looking for a Swiss Arms black target non restricted. Only willing to pay $500 as it could go prohib in a few days and be confiscated. IE I lose $500 and the rifle. Not willing to pay more so no "I have projects, buying something else" etc full price responses. We all know the flood for sale has nothing to do with new interests projects etc. Willing to take a risk but only if it's worth it.
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WTB Swiss Arms for $500
Looking for a Swiss Arms black target non restricted. Only willing to pay $500. Not willing to pay more so no "I have projects, buying something else" etc full price responses. We all know the flood for sale has nothing to do with new interests projects etc.
The suggested EE Rule change I suggested.
And you folks know what the EE rules were amended to, but here it is again.
Rule #8;
Descriptions of all items must be factual. All pictures posted must be the original pictures of the items owned by the sellers. Sales pitches based on assumption, rumours, unsubstantiated claims or anything that are deemed to be unethical by CGN will be removed. CGN reserves the right to infract or/and remove accounts who violate this clause.
KevinB, could you please stop speculation long enough for the firearms lab to make a decision? They've been provided with new information that none of us are privy to, so no need to speculate at this point as it does no good.
Stormchaser
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I believe this earlier rule supports the new rule, specifically rules about news:
"4) No personal progaganda will be tolerated. Let's say you don't like Starshiptroopers and you spend whole day on digging out articles on how bad the "Starshiptroopers" are, your access to this forum will be removed and you will get infraction. If you have some fringe belief, such as that the Dolphins are conspiring with the alients to invade Earth, don't make a propaganda here."
The $500 offer is a form of personal propaganda aimed at influencing owners attitudes so that they sell the gun. The problem is that propaganda might indirectly influence an RCMP lab worker and negatively effect the entire community.
It's a judgement call which is why the mods/admins exist. Although I personally am in favor of capitalism, marketing and creativity, the possible harm done by the ad far outweighs any benefit to either seller or buyer.
Mod appeal decision: 06252013 (I actually have no power just thought the star-date looked cool)
"4) No personal progaganda will be tolerated. Let's say you don't like Starshiptroopers and you spend whole day on digging out articles on how bad the "Starshiptroopers" are, your access to this forum will be removed and you will get infraction. If you have some fringe belief, such as that the Dolphins are conspiring with the alients to invade Earth, don't make a propaganda here."
The $500 offer is a form of personal propaganda aimed at influencing owners attitudes so that they sell the gun. The problem is that propaganda might indirectly influence an RCMP lab worker and negatively effect the entire community.
It's a judgement call which is why the mods/admins exist. Although I personally am in favor of capitalism, marketing and creativity, the possible harm done by the ad far outweighs any benefit to either seller or buyer.
Mod appeal decision: 06252013 (I actually have no power just thought the star-date looked cool)
Hey now. Unreasonable EE ads are never funny
Hope you don't get slapped with an infraction like I did.
As with all TV's posts, there is a grain of salt that should be taken with it, and here it is:
Seems to me that you got a warning and NOT an infraction. There was also the little issue of promoting illegal activity or selling illegal items. You and I also discussed the warning and your ad.
My feeling then is the same as now: the EE is a buy and sell and not an opinion or editorial page. There is a politics, off topics and general firearms forums for your social commentaries.
If the post or thread takes away from everyone else's experience at CGN, then it likely should be moderated. The ad you posted shares one thing in common with epoxy's. It was not meant to generate a sale, it was to make a rhetorical point. Fake ads, scams etc, all take away from the member's experience and will continue to be dealt with.
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mildcustom2
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I raised this question back when all the adds first started popping up on the EE. Only one moderator was kind enough to respond to my concerns. The others just gave me the cold shoulder. To the moderator that did respond, I greatly appreciate it and taking the time to discuss my concerns.
I still think people should be required to include the possible reclassification in there EE adds but that's just my opinion. Hate like hell to see someone spend 3000$ on a rifle just to turn it in a month later.
I personally noticed no "flood" of swiss arms rifles to the EE. I check it often and honestly there seems to have been no flux in the amount of swiss arms rifles for sale that is unusual.
When I saw Epoxy7's add I did not approve, and I still don't. It comes across to me as someone trying to take advantage of a horrible situation not unlike the PMAGs. But if someone is willing to sell such a nice piece for that much it is their own problem.
When I saw Epoxy7's add I did not approve, and I still don't. It comes across to me as someone trying to take advantage of a horrible situation not unlike the PMAGs. But if someone is willing to sell such a nice piece for that much it is their own problem.
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