6.5 Needmoor ~ Federal +Peak
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he actually has one now
Oh I know it's absolutely doable now. But if they put out the PEAK ammo in 338 Fed then that might get some factory rifles made too, and I might be able to get a factory rifle without having to go through all the trouble and cost.
Most likely just going to end up with a rebarrel or rebore on a used 30-06 but we'll see, bought a bike instead of guns this year.
It’s a really really sad state of affairs if anyone has 270 envy….
A wise feller once said that the 270 is more than enough proof that you can’t even neck the suck out of a 30-06
R.
Latest Outdoor Life podcast has John Snow on it talking about this.
Interesting to listen to, in that it sounds like Federal has worked out the kinks with reloading the steel case now for the 6.5 CM that they ran into with the 7BC. Apparently will be data released for reloaders with commonly available powders now for the 6.5CM. Area419, SAC, and RCBS are working on making dies available.
And there was some interesting dialogue around what actually wears out throats. Friction from the bullet engaging the lands, not the heat from ignition. Proof has a new barrel - starts out at a 1:500” twist and accelerates to 1:7” that basically eliminates throat wear for all practical purposes. Tested against a standard tube in 7BC, they completely cooked a regular tube at 2500 rounds, and the new barrel with the straight rifling to start is over 5000 rounds and still shooting sub inch 10 shot groups.
The technology is changing fast, and new developments are definitely intriguing.
Interesting to listen to, in that it sounds like Federal has worked out the kinks with reloading the steel case now for the 6.5 CM that they ran into with the 7BC. Apparently will be data released for reloaders with commonly available powders now for the 6.5CM. Area419, SAC, and RCBS are working on making dies available.
And there was some interesting dialogue around what actually wears out throats. Friction from the bullet engaging the lands, not the heat from ignition. Proof has a new barrel - starts out at a 1:500” twist and accelerates to 1:7” that basically eliminates throat wear for all practical purposes. Tested against a standard tube in 7BC, they completely cooked a regular tube at 2500 rounds, and the new barrel with the straight rifling to start is over 5000 rounds and still shooting sub inch 10 shot groups.
The technology is changing fast, and new developments are definitely intriguing.
Something no one has talked about there is no Gaurantee that any of the 5 Plus Peak ammo will shoot accurately in yiour rifle 
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I wouldn't mind trying a box just to see how it groups out of my Tikka.Something no one has talked about there is no Gaurantee that any of the 5 Plus Peak ammo will shoot accurately in yiour rifle
Any sponsors sell this ammo yet?
Sadly as a LH shooter keeping my eyes peeled for something like that is easier said than done. Other than 30-06 and 7Rem Mag the LH market has been really weak for the last while. Things like a 338rcm have never been easy on the LH market but it's real slim pickens these days.
CSC I think it was has it on order. I suspect they're all going to get on that train in short order though.
As soon as I read this I thought about a progressive twist...
Guess that's the answer. Interesting.
I'm 100% rebarreling my still sorta new 6.5 creedmoor custom. I have a 1/7.5" twist for the >150 grain bullets but damn I'll get a progressive twist instead. If the peak alloy cases can be reloaded with a normal press and dies, that's a winner.
Yea but theres 5 different boxes too
aka vague...very vague
Lots of confusion and misunderstanding about barrel life and throat erosion.
The 6.5 Dudmoore certainly wouldn’t be considered an overbore cartridge. Adding 200fps to it really won’t turn it into one either.
Most fellers wouldn’t even get close enough in round count for it to ever be a concern.
Kind of like talking about barrel life on a 308, or a 30-06... what's the point?
R.
The 6.5 Dudmoore certainly wouldn’t be considered an overbore cartridge. Adding 200fps to it really won’t turn it into one either.
Most fellers wouldn’t even get close enough in round count for it to ever be a concern.
Kind of like talking about barrel life on a 308, or a 30-06... what's the point?
R.
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This just turned that 6.5 Dudmoore into a 6.5 Creammore
My only 6.5 is a target rifle, I don't need the extra fps right now, it shoots accurate and that's all I care about.
Now a 308 win peak is interesting as I have a lightweight sheep build in that. And hey hopefully they do a 300 wsm peak. Zero hold overs needed. Lol.
It didn’t tho. That’s the thing. There are lots of faster 6.5’s already. If a feller wants more speed, it’s already easy to get.
If this tech catches on, which it really hasn’t in previous versions, then everything is the same again.
Once a dud, always a dud.
R.
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It will be interesting to wade through the marketing vs reality of this.
If I can have 300wsm speeds with a 308 recoil, that would be nice.
But I agree with you. I have a 308, when I want 300wsm speeds guess what, I grab the 300wsm lol. If you need more, 6.5 prc using the same bullet as the 6.5 creed. Or any other 6.5-06 etc out there.
Marketing, you need to convince people they need that product. Federal did a good job making it pretty reasonably priced compared with other ammo.
