6.5x55 Semi?

I love my Ljungman!

My first rifle of all. Bought it at a local auction using my Dad's FAC. No one knew what it was (Neither did I at 14), so it went cheap. I carried it for deer my first few seasons, and still have it.

Possibly the most accurate semi 'surp made. Can be loaded (to a legal 5) very quickly with strippers.

As suggested, brass in mangled and flung far. Almost no recoil, but seriously LOUD. If you're not cautious a finger or thumb could get a surprise. That's not happened to me in almost 30 years of owning mine. The Bayonet is standard between the Ljungmans and the 96.

"I don't want to hijack guy's but I need some help. I was looking at a Ljungmann ag 42 online, it seem in great shape , non sporterize but what stomp me is that its advertise as a 8mm mauser. It doesn't seem to be a Hakim as it does not have a post front sight muzzle brake. Are there people who could have changed thr caliber of that gun or would it be a misprint? Thank you very much. "

The tooling for the Ljungman was sold to Egypt, and they churned out the Hakim with it. The Hakim is very similar except it was chambered in 8mm MAuser and has an adjustable gas port (a fine thing).

I also owned a Rashid for a short while. Another variation but chambered in 7.62x39, and an attached folding bayonet (mine was missing it's bayo), and an actual charging handle.
 
I talk to the seller , the rifle I'm looking at is a 1943 Ljungmann ag 42 with the ag 42 stock and small comp barrel but it's chamberd in 8mm. Could it be a ag 42 rebarreld in 8mm in Egypt?
 
rally guy said:
I talk to the seller , the rifle I'm looking at is a 1943 Ljungmann ag 42 with the ag 42 stock and small comp barrel but it's chamberd in 8mm. Could it be a ag 42 rebarreld in 8mm in Egypt?
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Seems strange and it wouldn't make a lot of sense. I would have a look at it up close. I've had people insistthat their Enfield M17 was a 303. Not.
 
rally guy said:
I talk to the seller , the rifle I'm looking at is a 1943 Ljungmann ag 42 with the ag 42 stock and small comp barrel but it's chamberd in 8mm. Could it be a ag 42 rebarreld in 8mm in Egypt?
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It could be. There is a fellow CGN'er who has one re-chambered to .308... It doesn't seem like a worthy project to convert one, as Hakims are out there too.

When you next look at the rifle, check it over thoroughly. There should be some stamps on the receiver stating what it is (a crown stamped there with a date in the 40's would make me think it's Swedish) . There are other things to look at too...is the gas adjustable? Swedish rifles are not normally adjustable. There are a few other differences too, but the parts could be swappable. I know the magazines interchange (Ljungman have a hasp on the front of the magazine, Hakims don't), and possibly some other parts too (bolt/receiver covers).

IF you could snap some pics of it and post them, you could better info.
 
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Well I just pulled the trigger and orderd it, I'm kinda nervous oubout this buy
 
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...Looking at this pic alone, it looks very Swedish. Stock disk, front sight, hasp on the front of the magazine, and non adjustable gas port.

That doesn't mean it's not in 8mm, but I would certainly double check. The 2 bumps on the cover are def. Swedish, and not Egyptian.

Both the Hakim n' Ljungman are pretty nifty rifles, and cool you got one. I would certainly consider slugging the bore before firing it! I know stranger things have happened, but I have a hard time wrapping my head around putting the effort into converting a Ljungman to 8mm when so many Hakims are out there.
 
Sure looks AG42 to me. I wouldn't try to ram an 8mm in there till I had a good look at it. I have a Hakim and they are not the same.
 
Swedish machine-gun sections used the Browning MG in 8x63 Bofors.

They had Mauser rifles built to handle this cartridge, in order that the MG section only have to carry one type of ammunition.

Is it possible that they rebuilt some G-42s for trials along the same lines?

There ARE strange things out there which aren't in the books. Even I have a couple......
 
smellie said:
Swedish machine-gun sections used the Browning MG in 8x63 Bofors.

They had Mauser rifles built to handle this cartridge, in order that the MG section only have to carry one type of ammunition.

Is it possible that they rebuilt some G-42s for trials along the same lines?

There ARE strange things out there which aren't in the books. Even I have a couple......
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I can't wait to receive the rifle to take close ups so you guys with a vastly superior knowledge then mine could help me identify this!
 
camster said:
It could be. There is a fellow CGN'er who has one re-chambered to .308... It doesn't seem like a worthy project to convert one, as Hakims are out there too.

When you next look at the rifle, check it over thoroughly. There should be some stamps on the receiver stating what it is (a crown stamped there with a date in the 40's would make me think it's Swedish) . There are other things to look at too...is the gas adjustable? Swedish rifles are not normally adjustable. There are a few other differences too, but the parts could be swappable. I know the magazines interchange (Ljungman have a hasp on the front of the magazine, Hakims don't), and possibly some other parts too (bolt/receiver covers).

IF you could snap some pics of it and post them, you could better info.
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IIRC, there was a small number of trial versions of the Swedish AG-42 that were chambered in 7.62 NATO from the factory or an arsenal conversion thereof.

A truly rare beast indeed in the milsurp market..............
 
Brutus said:
IIRC, there was a small number of trial versions of the Swedish AG-42 that were chambered in 7.62 NATO from the factory or an arsenal conversion thereof.

A truly rare beast indeed in the milsurp market..............
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Would you happen to know if trial rifles were mafe in 8mm mauser?
 
mmattockx said:
A set of calipers on the muzzle will tell you what you have there, it's not hard to tell the difference between 6.5mm and 8mm.


Mark
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Sounds easy, but the muzzle break/flash hider makes getting calipers into the bore tricky. Pushing a slug through one is definitive.


rally guy said:
Would you happen to know if trial rifles were mafe in 8mm mauser?
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Originally for the Swedes? I would doubt it. 6.5x55 is a Swedish thing ( and such a fine thing indeed). There must have been proving rifles to hook the Egyptians, but that would have been late/post AG-42B production.
 
camster said:
Sounds easy, but the muzzle break/flash hider makes getting calipers into the bore tricky. Pushing a slug through one is definitive.



Originally for the Swedes? I would doubt it. 6.5x55 is a Swedish thing ( and such a fine thing indeed). There must have been proving rifles to hook the Egyptians, but that would have been late/post AG-42B production.
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I can't wait to receive the rifle to find out what is the history of that rifle. Also it is suppose to be stamped 1943.
 
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