6.5x55 Semi?

Sounds easy, but the muzzle break/flash hider makes getting calipers into the bore tricky. Pushing a slug through one is definitive.

Fair point. The rifle in the picture doesn't have a muzzle device, but that may or may not be correct for the rifle rally guy bought. If the muzzle is tough to reach then dropping a 6.5mm bullet down the bore will tell the tale, it should fall clear of an 8mm bore.


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The pics show a SWEDE AG42B Ljungmann, caliber will be 6.5X55. DO NOT attempt to shoot an 8X57 in this rifle until you are certan of the bore diameter and caliber. 6.5X55= 0.264dia & 8X57=0.323dia. If you're a handloader, that would be easy to check, if not take it to a gunsmith .
 
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Comparing a thumb or finger getting caught in an M1 and an AG-42B is like comparing Jaws to a Goldfish. This one was not mine, but that of someone who wished he had not.
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The pics show a SWEDE AG42B Ljungmann, caliber will be 6.5X55. DO NOT attempt to shoot an 8X57 in this rifle until you are certan of the bore diameter and caliber. 6.5X55= 0.264dia & 8X57=0.323dia. If you're a handloader, that would be easy to check, if not take it to a gunsmith .

The only thing I can think of its that they had a hakim and a ljungmann and they got the wrong picture up, now while on the phone with the salesmen I ask the year of the rifle he informed me that it was stamp 1943. I was then skeptic and I proceeded to ask him multiple question and he didn't seem to know to much about the history of this rifle; I can't really blame him for that, but he told me one of the cartridge he shoot the moste is 6.5x55 and that they drop a 8mm mauser in the chamber and it sat flush( a perfect fit) and that a 6.5x55 drop deep in the chamber and was loose.

Now this rifle is coming from "the gun dealer" in nb, they sell use firearms and I believe the guy I was talking to was a gunsmith.
 
Plus I'm a noob in milsurplus but I have a hard time beliving a 8mm mauser would fit in a 6.5x55 chamber :s?
 
Point to remember is that when Egypt set up to build the Hakim, they didn't just tool up an old papyrus factory and steal a set of plans.

Nor did they simply make "monkey copies" the way the Chinese have done with so many firearms, using and re-using the tooling which was originally made for the M-14. They are at a point right now at which a Chinese M-14 actually has hand-finished parts in places: the tooling is being used for something else.

Rather, Egypt bought the entire production tooling for the AG-42. This is part of the reason that the Hakim does not have a couple of the smaller improvements which the AG-42B has: the B was a Swedish in-Service modification of existing rifles, undertaken after the tooling already had gone to the Land of the Pharaohs and Colonel Nasser.

I remember a discussion one time in one of Doc's classes regarding that "troublesome Arab" Colonel Nasser. Student asked why Nasser didn't just do as the Americans told him. At that time, Nasser was straddling the line between the Yanks and the Commies, taking aid from both of them and playing a very smart middle-of-the-road game. Dr. Lightbody retorted, "Colonel Nasser is not an Arab. He has an Arabic name but he is an EGYPTIAN. He is the same racial stock as the men who built the Pyramids..... and he KNOWS this. Colonel Nasser does not take ORDERS from ANYONE: he does what he thinks is best for Egypt."

And Egypt was building up a distinctive and fairly-advanced local arms industry. The Hakim was a slightly-redesigned AG-42. The Rashid was the same basic mechanism, altered in sizes, capable of being produced on AG-42 machinery, but set up for the Soviet Model 43 cartridge. The Helwan pistol was a Beretta Brigadier, the M951, produced in Egypt. Yeah, they bought THAT factory, too! THEN the Sovs gave them a complete factory for the AKM, which also was set up at Helwan. Hmmmm....... a Russian-built factory to make Russian machine-guns........ on Russian machine-tools, no less...... and NOT under Russian control, either...... wonder where all those brand-new AKMs came from, the ones the Yanks supplied to the Muj in Afghanistan in the late '80s. Yup!

I don't have both rifles myself but, given their history, I would not be surprised at more-than-limited interchangeability of parts between the two rifles. Quite probable that even BARRELS might interchange.

Just maundering along in my senility......

Back into the Sock Closet. Armaguerra is feeling threatened, surrounded by all those Lees!
 
Speaking of Rashids, I saw one a couple of weeks ago at the Burnaby gun show. It was in very good to excellent condition. A lovely gun going for $600. I would have loved to have it but too shallow a pocket.
 
''Back into the Sock Closet. Armaguerra is feeling threatened, surrounded by all those Lees! ''

I could take care of that one. It would be less sad with some italian carcano brothers!
 
Oh, it has Carcanos and Vetterlis here, but it wants another Armaguerra.

Preferably one with an odd serial number; its own number is even. It would make-do with a 7.35.

I thought I was doing good to find ONE. They aren't exactly a drug on the market these days. Maybe if they had made another 5 million......
 
I've owned 2 ag42s that were rebarreled to 7.62x51 ,so it is not out of the realm of possibility that someone rebarreled it at some point. although I would not recommend it ,as the chamber pressure is quite a bit higher.
 
I've owned 2 ag42s that were rebarreled to 7.62x51 ,so it is not out of the realm of possibility that someone rebarreled it at some point. although I would not recommend it ,as the chamber pressure is quite a bit higher.

Its not that I want to rebarrel it its just that I'm trying to find out what happed to the one I orderd, I can't wait to have it to find out!
 
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