It looks like 9 IV 76
7.62mm DCRA LE No4 conversion thread
- Thread starter Airborn_69
- Start date
It looks like 9 IV 76
Is that a birds eye maple stock?
Sure is...one of the most beautiful I've ever seen...it's like lookin' at the sun...
I'm jumping in with #1633.
Just bought it today, should have it in a week or so.
It has kind of a strange stock on it. A little rough in the shaping/sanding dept.
Wondering if I should try to improve it, or just leave it be.
I have several Parker Hale sights I could mount. I do have a 7.62 marked one, but I think I will leave it on Bill Strachan's presentation rifle.
I'm guessing the P14 one's won't fit.
I will post pics when I get it.
They sound like interesting rifles. Can't wait to warm it up again.
Just bought it today, should have it in a week or so.
It has kind of a strange stock on it. A little rough in the shaping/sanding dept.
Wondering if I should try to improve it, or just leave it be.
I have several Parker Hale sights I could mount. I do have a 7.62 marked one, but I think I will leave it on Bill Strachan's presentation rifle.
I'm guessing the P14 one's won't fit.
I will post pics when I get it.
They sound like interesting rifles. Can't wait to warm it up again.
I'm jumping in with #1633.
Just bought it today, should have it in a week or so.
It has kind of a strange stock on it. A little rough in the shaping/sanding dept.
Wondering if I should try to improve it, or just leave it be.
I have several Parker Hale sights I could mount. I do have a 7.62 marked one, but I think I will leave it on Bill Strachan's presentation rifle.
I'm guessing the P14 one's won't fit.
I will post pics when I get it.
They sound like interesting rifles. Can't wait to warm it up again.
Thx for the info DOOK, I would like to see what it looks like, maybe someone on here can justify why your stock is like this, by reading the history of the DCRA No4's there would be a few..
If you have a spare 7.62mm rear sight, pm me
Note: Highest reported DCRA No4 is now 1982!
Cheers
I got it today.
What a package!
The barell is very long, and very heavy. The stock needs some sandpaper loving, but shouldn't be too much work. It appears to be free floated.
The trigger needs some lube, but is very light, and has a very short travel.
Looks like a #1 bolt head, and a .303 extractor.
It was a great deal, I am proud to own a DCRA finally.
I will put up pics in a bit.
What a package!
The barell is very long, and very heavy. The stock needs some sandpaper loving, but shouldn't be too much work. It appears to be free floated.
The trigger needs some lube, but is very light, and has a very short travel.
Looks like a #1 bolt head, and a .303 extractor.
It was a great deal, I am proud to own a DCRA finally.
I will put up pics in a bit.
Last edited:
Dook- That is a pretty heavy barrel. It's not a fibreglass wrapped Sonier tube like mine is it?
Or a custom barrel?
Is it marked CA 7.62 anywhere?
That one definitely wants a PH5C sight on it. (or TZ4-47)
It appears to be 7/8" to an inch its entire length. Very heavy, must be solid steel. The bore is perfect, and shiny. I will look for other markings, but I think the only ones will be what is in the bottom pic.
When you posted your maple stocked one, I knew I had missed out in a deal.
I saw that ad with only one view. Although this stock is a bit quirky, it seems comfortable enough. Yours is a masterpiece!
When you posted your maple stocked one, I knew I had missed out in a deal.
I saw that ad with only one view. Although this stock is a bit quirky, it seems comfortable enough. Yours is a masterpiece!
I bought that rifle very reluctantly...I had no idea what I was getting till I received it.
That's why people need to learn to post high quality pics in their ads, not these crap ones from a cellphone, leaning up against the wall.
This thread has intrigued me for a year. Today I made a point of looking at my collection to see if I had any of these rifles. I found five of them. One of them I actually used in competition and I never noticed that the number I used as a reference number for the rifle (the number on the action, bolt and sight) was actually the DCRA number.
#1204 Long Branch 1950 Shorty DCRA barrel used to belong to Miles Morgan
#1036 Savage action Regulated by Fulton hung trigger Kongsburg barrel used to be Art G’s
#1213 LongBranch 1944 Sportco 1:14 barrel, in brown Robertson stock, Canjar trigger. This was a shorty I acquired from Miles Morgan and had converted to a one piece stock rifle by Charlie Collins. It shot very well at long range.
#1031 LongBranch 1944 hammer forged Enfield barrel in blue Robertson stock. Was personal rifle of Charlie Collins, the gunsmith who made this one piece conversion and many others.
#1859 LongBranch 1944 22RimFire Shultz Larsen barrel, one piece laminate stock. Used to be George Sanderson’s.
I was horrified to see that I had converted a DCRA rifle to a one piece configuration. A severe “Buba”. But on reflection, I recall that these rifles were our target rifles and over the years we kept tuning our rifles to keep up with the changes allowed by the evolving rules.
When we were allowed to compete with real single shot target rifles we found that front locking target rifles shot the short ranges (300 to 800 yards) much better than a #4. But at long range (900 and 1,000 yards) the compensation of the #4 was a big help in making mediocre military ball ammo hold good elevation. The lower velocity rounds exited the muzzle aimed slightly higher, so they did not print low on the target.
I was skeptical of this and ran a trial at 1000 yards, comparing my Musgrave to the brown once piece in the picture above. I was shocked at how much better the #4 was and became a believer.
I had Charlie Collins build me two of these rifles. The first has an expensive Shultz Larsen barrel and the cheaper one (the brown one) had a cheap Sportco barrel. Both shot very well. My plan was to train with the brown one and then use the other in competition, with a still fresh barrel. When it came time to go to Bisley (1984), I took the brown one because I felt comfortable with it and did not want to change rifles at the last minute.
That year I missed the long range bull only twice, setting a record high aggregate for the week. I have not fired the rifle since. The back up rifle got used in the 1992 Palma match. It then got scrapped, with the barrel, stock and trigger going into other projects.
The one piece #4 may have been the most accurate and reliable version of the #4 target rifle. We experimented with the action screw torque to see what setting got the best results. The 40-50 you can see written on the side of two of the rifles was the screw torques for best results. I recall using a different torque at 900 compared to 1000.
#1204 Long Branch 1950 Shorty DCRA barrel used to belong to Miles Morgan
#1036 Savage action Regulated by Fulton hung trigger Kongsburg barrel used to be Art G’s
#1213 LongBranch 1944 Sportco 1:14 barrel, in brown Robertson stock, Canjar trigger. This was a shorty I acquired from Miles Morgan and had converted to a one piece stock rifle by Charlie Collins. It shot very well at long range.
#1031 LongBranch 1944 hammer forged Enfield barrel in blue Robertson stock. Was personal rifle of Charlie Collins, the gunsmith who made this one piece conversion and many others.
#1859 LongBranch 1944 22RimFire Shultz Larsen barrel, one piece laminate stock. Used to be George Sanderson’s.
I was horrified to see that I had converted a DCRA rifle to a one piece configuration. A severe “Buba”. But on reflection, I recall that these rifles were our target rifles and over the years we kept tuning our rifles to keep up with the changes allowed by the evolving rules.
When we were allowed to compete with real single shot target rifles we found that front locking target rifles shot the short ranges (300 to 800 yards) much better than a #4. But at long range (900 and 1,000 yards) the compensation of the #4 was a big help in making mediocre military ball ammo hold good elevation. The lower velocity rounds exited the muzzle aimed slightly higher, so they did not print low on the target.
I was skeptical of this and ran a trial at 1000 yards, comparing my Musgrave to the brown once piece in the picture above. I was shocked at how much better the #4 was and became a believer.
I had Charlie Collins build me two of these rifles. The first has an expensive Shultz Larsen barrel and the cheaper one (the brown one) had a cheap Sportco barrel. Both shot very well. My plan was to train with the brown one and then use the other in competition, with a still fresh barrel. When it came time to go to Bisley (1984), I took the brown one because I felt comfortable with it and did not want to change rifles at the last minute.
That year I missed the long range bull only twice, setting a record high aggregate for the week. I have not fired the rifle since. The back up rifle got used in the 1992 Palma match. It then got scrapped, with the barrel, stock and trigger going into other projects.
The one piece #4 may have been the most accurate and reliable version of the #4 target rifle. We experimented with the action screw torque to see what setting got the best results. The 40-50 you can see written on the side of two of the rifles was the screw torques for best results. I recall using a different torque at 900 compared to 1000.
Last edited:
