7mm08 and elk

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Gatehouse said:
Wasnt it Jim Carmichael tat came up wiht the 260?
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NO! Ken Waters, among others, came up with it a good 30 years before Jim Carmichel wrote it up in Outdoor Life as 'his" invention and hoped no one would notice. :rolleyes: Waters coined the name "263 Express" or something like that. It's been popular in silhouette shooting for a very long time, long before Carmichel wrote about it.
 
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here's my 7oh8

so it looks like I got my answer. The picture of the bull elk seems proof enough.

On to another question, are there any varmint style bullets offered in 7mm? I can get 120gr, but can I pick up some 100grain hollowpoints or hornady Vmax's in 120 or 100grain?

Why? Why not? Im a gunnut!

this is my stevens 200 in 7mm08:cool:

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If I had a 7-08 for an all-around rifle, I'd try to find loads for the 120 V-Max and the 120 triple shock. Both loaded to 3000 fps or a wee bit more, hopefully to the same POI. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt moose or anything else short of bigger bears with the 120 TSX.

In fact, that's exactly what I'm doing with my lightweight 280 Ackley, which launches the same bullets at 3350+ fps. It's my all-around rifle.
 
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120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips are also pretty decent according to one Steve Timm (alias dogzapper on 24 hour Campfire). IIRC, he mentioned that these are more sturdier than the usual Ballistic Tip and that He has had good results on large big game (up to moose ) with them.
 
A couple years back I dropped a good sized moose in his tracks with a 160 gr Speer Grand Slam. It entered in front of left shoulder and was found in right rear hip. This year I carried the same load in the chamber but had a 140 b tip beneath it in case of a longer shot.(didn't have any partitions loaded or would have used that, instead, for everything).

7-08 works so well I gave my 7 Rem mag to my son. He's younger and stronger so he can carry the extra weight.:p
 
You use ballistic tips for your long shots? What is the logic there? I didn't think they would penetrate well on moose.:confused:
 
PowderBurner: You know that I already think of the 7mm-08 as a fine round, and you may also know that I have two rifles chambered in this caliber. Yes, the 7mm-08 will take an elk down, but here is the catch "under ideal condition". I have passed up on a bull because I felt "undergunned", that takes discipline. Elk are tougher than you think, and when wounded will take you for a scenic tour the likes of which you may not be prepared for especially after you've just worn a set of legs hiking into elk country to get to this point. If you haven't taken an elk yet, I will tell you this, when that first big bull comes into sight and he scratches his arse end with those nice long ivory tips, buddy you're gonna wish you had all the gun you can handle. You want to hit him and call it a day. A cow elk is three times as tough as a bull moose twice her weight.

In summary: NO, the 7mm-08 is not a good choice.
 
I've long been of the belief that it's not what ya hit them with, it's where you hit'em.

There is not a bullet/cartridge combo that will GROSSLY out penetrate the 7-08 and 140gr TSX that i've come across.

In short, although the wound channel may be smaller from a 7-08 and 140gr TSX vs say a 225gr TSX from the 35 Whelen, rest assured you'll reach the vitals from identical angles with both of 'em...BTDT (and ended up selling the Whelen).

Sure like to know when elk started wearing Kevlar, as the old 30-30 sure accounted for its share of elk in the day.

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Sure like to know when elk started wearing Kevlar, as the old 30-30 sure accounted for its share of elk in the day.
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Please enlighten me on those statistics concerning the 30-30. I'd like to see the numbers and sources from which you quote, as I am fairly new to this elk hunting game. Could you please share your personal experiences.
 
Well...the 30-30 wa s pretty common round, still is. Stands to reason that afew elk have been dropped by them, just like a few moose and a few deer...:)


I don't even know why the 7-08 woudl be questioned as a capable elk cartridge. teh 7x57 has a prven track record on vrtually all species of game, and with our modern bullets, it is only better than it once was.

Dont' ask it to do anything that your 30-06 won't do, and you won't be dissapointed, seems pretty simple to me..
 
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PowderBurner: You know that I already think of the 7mm-08 as a fine round, and you may also know that I have two rifles chambered in this caliber. Yes, the 7mm-08 will take an elk down, but here is the catch "under ideal condition". I have passed up on a bull because I felt "undergunned", that takes discipline. Elk are tougher than you think, and when wounded will take you for a scenic tour the likes of which you may not be prepared for especially after you've just worn a set of legs hiking into elk country to get to this point. If you haven't taken an elk yet, I will tell you this, when that first big bull comes into sight and he scratches his arse end with those nice long ivory tips, buddy you're gonna wish you had all the gun you can handle. You want to hit him and call it a day. A cow elk is three times as tough as a bull moose twice her weight.

In summary: NO, the 7mm-08 is not a good choice.
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Not going to start a flaming match here, but I most wholeheartedly disagree with your statement!! I have hunted with the 7x57 for several decades, and have shot all manner of game with it, including several Elk and about 9 or 10 moose. Not all shots were ideal, but the 7x57 [ballistic twin of the 7-08] always got the job done. My bullet of choice is the 160 Partition at around 2750 or a bit more. Penetrates just great. I shot one very sturdy bull Elk quartering towards me at about 240 yards. The 160P took him on the onside shoulder, smashed the bones to bits, went on through both lungs and was recovered under the hide at the last rib. Bull went 20 yards and piled up. Shot a rather large Bull moose with just the opposite presentation. Guess where this bullet was? Out the other shoulder after breaking bone there. No recovered bullet, since it exited. This animal dropped right there and did not get up again. Shot was 280 yards. That is plenty of oomph for the game mentioned. A TSX in the 130 - 140 area would be just as effective, I'm sure.
Go hunting with that 7-08 with confidence! Eagleye.
 
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