870 problem or not ?

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took my grizzly backpacking, dipped in water and snow few times ( snowshoeing ) and the thing would not spit shells out from the tube, they came out so slow that it jams the gun if you cycle as you usually would, do you guys allow more time for the shell to come out completely from the mag in such conditions or is it a problem with mine ? i guess the follower/spring got frozen which caused this. they still came out, but really slow. temp was about -10/-15 for 3 days/2 nights. not very reliable if i needed to use it.

thanks.
 
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A grizzly is NOT an 870.

Remington has a proven reputation with their 870s. Dominion Grizzly does not. Correction, it does ... a bad one it seems.

Hope you don't trust your life to a Grizzly having it out in the wilderness.
 
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A grizzly is NOT an 870.

Remington has a proven reputation with their 870s. Dominion Grizzly does not. Correction, it does ... a bad one it seems.

Hope you don't trust your life to a Grizzly having it out in the wilderness.
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Okie dokie mr high speed elitist, thanks for adding nothing of value.

Next, the stock follower is finicky when grit gets in it, got to keep it clean an clear of any debris.

Loading shells you've dropped on ground is one of the major culprits of this, an also dipping it in stuff.

Take the end cap off, pop the follower spring and follower out.

Wipe down the spring and follower an run a rag or patches/ect through the tube to clear it of any debris, now run a clean patch with gun oil on it through a few times then reassemble it back together.

Make sure to put a generous amount of oil on the spring as well.

It's just the nature of shotguns if ya get crap in there it's going to act up as it's designed to slide smoothly, not against dirt ect.

Hope that helps.

An btw, it's an 870 CLONE. Grizz/HP9 same #### 1.5" barrel diff an Norc name. Griz ships in a Norc HP-9 box as well. Also uses any part the 870's use pretty much.
 
its a spring and a plastic follower inside a metal tube, if i replace those with a real 870 parts, would that fix it ? thats my questions, if all of them do it or is it mine or brand related ?
 
Not much value in ones life going out with a gun that doesn't work as it gets a bit wet.

If you're all replacing these chinese guns with Remington parts, why don't you just go out and buy Remington in the first place. No matter how many parts you flip and flop, still doesn't make it an 870.

But hey, I wouldn't know, my 870s work wet or dry. I am curious though, how you get mud and crap in the mag tube in the first place, like that's the problem.
 
im pretty sure the dinky spring and flimsy follower in a real 870 would bind up just as easily. american crap will be the same as chinese crap..

you sure you were not short stroking?
 
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its a spring and a plastic follower inside a metal tube, if i replace those with a real 870 parts, would that fix it ? thats my questions, if all of them do it or is it mine or brand related ?
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The Griz/Norcs that don't "do it", are usually just the ones that don't get out of the house.
 
Remington?

Have a look at their new line of "All American Guns" made in Russia!!

Now they have this Double Barrel Rifle from Russia. What a horrible gun! Machine marks all over the surface. Then they put red "Remington" on the side, not even engraving, just some kind of print on.

Remington has been losing money since like 2002. It's just as bad as the Big 3. Just look at Winchester!

Good luck!

For your 870, just unscrew the cap and have a look at inside. Maybe you can find some fish there...

BTW, for low temp environment you need degrease the gun inside out, then put light oil like WD40. I used wrong oil on my 22lr and the fire pin move very slow under -10C. The gun just wouldn't fire at all.
 
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Remington has been losing money since like 2002. It's just as bad as the Big 3. Just look at Winchester!
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Maybe because people are buying cheap chinese guns instead? Maybe they realized the market wants cheap guns, so they make those too.

If the Rems are so cheap, why is everyone replacing their chinese parts with Remington parts.
 
Remington guns are economical, chinese gus are cheap . There is a difference.

Which would you consider of more value.
 
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Maybe because people are buying cheap chinese guns instead? Maybe they realized the market wants cheap guns, so they make those too.

If the Rems are so cheap, why is everyone replacing their chinese parts with Remington parts.
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Remington hasn't improve their design since 1960?

Both Savage and Tikka use better design now. I guess it's because we didn't love Remington enough?

And please drop the American Gun argument - like I said already, new Remington line are made in Russia.
 
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Maybe because people are buying cheap chinese guns instead? Maybe they realized the market wants cheap guns, so they make those too.

If the Rems are so cheap, why is everyone replacing their chinese parts with Remington parts.
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Well said.
 
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Remington hasn't improve their design since 1960?

Both Savage and Tikka use better design now. I guess it's because we didn't love Remington enough?

And please drop the American Gun argument - like I said already, new Remington line are made in Russia.
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Tikka makes an 870? Can the Fin's really make em cheaper than the Chinese?
 
michaelsabre said:
Remington hasn't improve their design since 1960?

Both Savage and Tikka use better design now. I guess it's because we didn't love Remington enough?

And please drop the American Gun argument - like I said already, new Remington line are made in Russia.
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the 870 design needs no improvment.Thats why they are poorly cloned!!!
 
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