9 mm arguments

Bergamascho,

Haven't heard of CZs? :eek: We'll it's a good thing you're on CGN! :) You can buy them at all the big local gun stores (Reliable Gun, Lever Arms, Italian Sporting Goods).

Sunray said it best. Ideally you should try the guns at the range first. Otherwise go to one of the local stores and ask to handle them. My personal preference in descending order: Browning HP, CZ75, Berretta 92FS, S&W M&P, Sig 226.

As you can see I'm with Howasan. The HP is a solid proven design. It has served both the Allied and Axis forces in WW2, and still serves our CF. I found it fit my hand well right out of the box. But it fit even better with wrap around Pachmyr grips with finger grooves.
 

For me, of the myriad of handguns I have tried, I always come back to this design.

Tried and true, 1911. Although the H&K's come reaal close.

The grip angle fits me, it points naturally for me (Glocks have always pointed a bit high for me) controls all are within easy reach and make sense. Aftermarket support has always been there.

I dunno, to me, it made a whole lotta sense.

If I was you Bergamascho, I'd go out there and start to handle as many handguns I could get my hands on (pretty much what I did) find something that points naturally for you, then buy it :)
 
Great advice guys. I have access to a Glock 17 and I enjoyed firing it but that is literally the only handgun I have ever fired. This CZ business has been gnawing at me since this morning...I think I will head to Lever tomorrow and see if I can get my hands on one to compare. Being over 6 feet and having fairly large hands I think there is much wisdom in handling as many as possible as most of you have recommended.

I will return and report after visits to the retailers!
 
I came across some great vids on Youtube...search "Nutnfancy". He does a lot of comprehensive reviews of some of the most widely discussed firearms...His #1 choice is the Glock 17 for civilian use and the Sig 226 for military use...hmmm decisions, decisions...

:rolleyes:
 
I own both a Beretta 92FS and a Sig 229. The Sig is far more accurate. I also have a lot of experience with the Glock, which feels nowhere near as solid when I shoot it compared to a metal gun.
 
The CZ is very good and fits most people very well, I know someone who uses one in PPC Duty pistol and has no problems with accuracy, or durability. It will probably take quite a while until you can shoot to the accuracy capability of any of the pistols mentioned here, so it's best to get out and handle and shoot if possible, as many as you can. Look up the youtube Tod Jarrett video on how to hold a pistol and select the pistol that fits and feels best. I believe DVC rents pistols (I may be wrong on that, maybe someone could confirm that) and they are in the Lower Mainland.
 
Bergamascho, I see you're located in the lower mainland. And since you're willing to swing by Lever on a whim I'm guessing Vancouver. So the only place you should be going at this point is out to DVC and plan on spending some money on range time trying out the roughly 10 different 9mm's they have there. I'll tell you right now that it won't be a cheap session by the time you buy enough ammo to try out all the guns but it'll be money well spent since you'll PERSONALLY get to try out a lot of options rather than just rely on what all us fanboys tell you that you should have because we have. Go shoot them and form your own opinion from first hand experience.

Take a camera and notepad. Or at least the notepad or it'll all be a huge blur by the end of it. And don't be afraid to ask for some of them back again to try out and compare side by side. Pick one of the quiet nights to do this. Those would be a Tues, Wed or Thurs. Don't even THINK about doing this on a Friday night or Saturday. When it's quiet the guys don't even mind giving you some hints on the proper grip and trigger control.
 
cz or sig is going to be more accurate. I like the glock but for a polymer gun I love my Ruger SR9, and P345. Depends what you like. Both Glock and CZ have .22lr conversions available to. This may be another factor for a first time handgun owner a .22lr is best for training especially with 9mm alot of new shooters develop a flinch. This will be likely if you go wwith a polymer framed gun that has alot of muzzle flip like the glock. Personally I'd vote for the cz sp01, but I love my Rugers.
 
^^ Sig also has .22lr conversions, for a good price.

Muzzle flip is related to the height of the barrel conpared to your hand, a Sig has a higher barrel compareg to a glock, Glocks have less muzzle flip than Sigs. It may not be easy to see, because people think weight makes how the muzze moves, but it's the height relation of the barrel to the frame/hand that decides if muzzle flip is more pronounced or not.
People don't hold the gun the same way one to another, so it is another variation to think about, weak hands will make for a more pronounced muzzle flip, and strong hands and wrists will make for a very low visible muzzle flip and overall gun movement.
 
just got back from the range. shot with a bunch of young cops all using their issued M&p's, and they let me fire off some rounds. I will be trading my ruger in and picking up the M&P in 9mm in the near future. With the small backstrap installed it is almost as nice as my SR9 in the hands but more accurate. I love the large blocky sights, especially when compared to the tiny ones on the SR9. Not adjustable though, but oh well. Go handle some guns see what feels better. All the big names are reliable, and should function well.
 
My first pistol was a CZ 75B in 9mm. A great gun to start with. Easy to disasemble and clean and accurate/reliable
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Then i sold it and bought a Beretta M9. Fits my hand better and as the same heavy solid gun feeling than the CZ. And just about 1 month ago i both a Beretta PX4 Storm in 9mm too. Different feeling but i really love this gun.
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Cant talk about Glock or Sig cause i never had any. But im really satisfied with the ones i own.
 
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