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reading in the ontario hunting regulations and it doesnt say that you cannot hunt with a 9mm, some areas say nothing larger than .275. So in theory for wmu's that allow rifle for deer you could use a 9mm. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
 
If its a centerfire 9mm yes you can legally. Not the best choice of caliber for hunting bullets but deer are thin skinned. Place a bullet thru both lungs and wait a half hour.
 
I agree the 9mm isn't the best choice. But it will kill a deer with a proper shot. Not everyone lobs bullets in across fields. Some people hunt and get close. Most deer I shoot are less then 25 yards. A 9mm is quite capable at short distance
 
brybenn said:
I agree the 9mm isn't the best choice. But it will kill a deer with a proper shot. Not everyone lobs bullets in across fields. Some people hunt and get close. Most deer I shoot are less then 25 yards. A 9mm is quite capable at short distance
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I only bowhunt for big game... I know all about getting close. I have taken deer, bear and moose at distances measured in feet rather than yards... but with pistol cartridges unless there is a pressing need (???) for a 9mm, then .357 and .44 mag are better choices.
 
As others have said, although legal for use in Ontario, the 9mm is NOT a good choice for hunting deer IMHO. Energy & velocity is what kills game when using firearms. The most quoted standard for the energy required to cleanly kill a deer is 1000 ft lbs. Most factory 9mm ammo is less than 400 ft lbs @ the muzzle. Velocity is also low; >1300 fps. In the hands of an expert @ 50 yards or less, with perfect shot placement it will work, but there are far better tools for the job.

This photo shows the comparison of some larger cartridges to the 9mm. From left to right: 1) .30-30 2) 7.62x39 3) .44 mag 4) .357 mag 5) 9mm
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I have tried to dispatch wounded deer with a 9mm point blank, bounced off the scull several rounds to the boiler room finally did the job.
 
you dont really need alot of engery but say a 124gr(or something close) gold dot at say a max of 25 yards would do the job i know a guy who hunts smaller hogs with a 9mm AR of corse they are pest ive seen vids of people using full auto to hunt them
 
luftmech said:
I have tried to dispatch wounded deer with a 9mm point blank, bounced off the scull several rounds to the boiler room finally did the job.
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What type of bullet?

Pistol carbines generate an extra 150-250fps over pistols... With decent quality bullets I don't know why anyone would have an issue on thin skinned white tail deer?... Hunting with a semi auto with a 10rnd mag may raise an eyebrow to any CO you would stumble into... Check the reg's on mag cap's.
 
I am just giving personal experience at point blank with 147 gr Gold dot, white tail doe . Two shots at the head, 9 into the boiler.
 
We went out for wild boar last year and one of my friends used 147gr. Winchester hollow points in his CX4 NR, and it dropped the pig in its tracks. Shot placement was the key, and the bullet opened up well and buzzed through vitals as expected... That said it'd probable work for deer, but there are certainly better choices.
 
Hotwheels81 said:
With an XTP or GDHP+p thru a carbine such as the JR or Kel-tek inside of 50yrds you will have one very dead deer...
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I got the Kel tek and load my own. I can get a 124gr hollow XTP up to1350 fps and a 115 up to 1500+ both are over 500 lbs of energy and the 115gr is well under +P load and the 124gr is only slightly into +P range, and are both within 357 mag handgun loads. Many people in the states have taken deer with a 357 so inside 50 yards it is easily doable.

Bullet choice, shot placement, and not taking questionable shots are key, and I fully well plan on hunting with this gun this year. The nice thing with these is that you can take grouse or rabbits with it as well so no need to carry around a second gun. I'm pretty sure the 5 round limit still applies but I'll have to check BC regs to be sure, so if you are carrying an extra mag with 5 rounds in it, most COs should be ok with you.

Many a deer have been taken with a 22lr given the right shot, so a 9mm is more than capable of getting it done.
 
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The old Pennsylvania rifles carried by the like of Daniel Boone were generally .36 to .45 calibre, firing round patched ball at about 1,200 fps.

A .40 cal lead ball weighs 95.9 gr. At typical speed, that's a ME of 306 ft-lb, far less than any normal 9 x 19 load.

No massive energy, but they managed to take anything they could track - specifically including deer. I suspect that it was - as always - placement, placement, placement.

So yes, it's capable. Now ask if it's a good choice. Boone and his contemporaries used what was available. If they'd been offered a .30-06, I'm sure they would've grabbed it.
 
The .357 is the accepted minimum pistol Caliber for deer with expanding bullets. And the .357 is twice the cartridge the 9 is.

Check out Ballistics by the Inch and you will see in a sealed breech pistol the .357 Handily beats all 9mm easily over the whole spectrum of loads.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
The .357 is the accepted minimum pistol Caliber for deer with expanding bullets. And the .357 is twice the cartridge the 9 is.

Check out Ballistics by the Inch and you will see in a sealed breech pistol the .357 Handily beats all 9mm easily over the whole spectrum of loads.
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in a handgun/pistol as you said but out of a carbine a 9mm will do the job if placed right
 
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