A proper headshot

One thing the video illustrates is that the deer was not killed by "loss of blood" from a bullet wound. The energy from the bullet was spent in "separating tissue" in a dramatic fashion.

Some may joke that the sun light on the deers brain was the cause of death.
 
Would love to do a close up and slow motion of a lung shot or heart shot animal as it runs away, blood pouring out of it. Get really close in there when it falls, blood streaming out it's nose and mouth, gurgling sounds and thrashing as it fights to get some air. Then really pan in there and slow it right down and play some violin music when it stiffens it's legs, shudders for a second then dies.

Obviously many people on here have never actually killed anything. Perhaps some of those that have are just raging narcissists that believe so highly of them selves that even when killing something it doesn't actually die when THEY do it. I don't know, but it's even more sickening to watch than that head shot video was....
 
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say.

Are you a hunter who likes quick one shot kills where the animal does not suffer BUT you don't want to actually see how that happens?


Definition of SQUEAMISH

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a : easily nauseated : queasy
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a : excessively fastidious or scrupulous in conduct or belief
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Aries- said:
generally this is done so they get the most amount of meat off the animal for the retail market.

i know someone that went to Africa to cull spring bucks (SP) with Remington. they had to do head shots as the meat was going to the European market. said they had to be very careful as an off shot and the animal would sprint away with a shot off jaw or something of the sort and you couldn't catch it or shoot it on the run. (all this done from jeeps at night with a spotlight)
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Most meat hunters in the Eastern Cape (around the Graaff-Reinet area) would use either .222 or .223 caliber bbl Sako's with suppressors (silencers) and head shoot between 300 and 400 springbok a night, using hand loads with Nosler partition bullets.

The whole process was professionally done with people on hand to gut, skin and hang the carcasses in 18 wheeler, refrigerator trucks - these in turn where used to move the meat to an airport where it was loaded on a plane, and landed in Europe within 24 hours of hitting the ground.

Head shots were the only option, if you miss you pay for the carcass - if you kill cleanly you earn fairly decent money.

Head shots using the above mentioned weapons on springbuck - sound like hitting a baseball with an aluminum bat.

Most guys would go in and shoot 4 or 5 nights per season to earn enough cash to fund their seasons meat hunting - perhaps (2 - 3k) which would buy a Kudu and a couple of impala for biltong.
 
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Taking a shot like that while culling on an estate makes sense. But under real hunting scenarios it's unlikely that you could make that shot reliably. But to show a slow-mo ultra close up of it just means that you're a sick voyeur that gets off on gore an dkilling. It has nothing to do with hunting. No different than dummies that post videos of themselves shooting gophers at close range with a shotgun or blowing them up in the air using large rifle. Just tasteless.
 
A clean harvest is a clean harvest IMO. What I find just a tad little bit concerning is doing this in an area known for CWD. (Perhaps if I had a teenage son, who was very impressionable, I would not allow him to repeatedly watch this graphic video over and over again) This kind of shot could compromise the handler's or consumer's health? Maybe. What do you guys think? Am I full of it or what??
 
track said:
I absalutely disapprove of such disgrace on a big game animal. A big game animal diserves more respect regardless of intentions. The OP of this thread has nothing better to do except to stir the chit among hunters.
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Thanks bud!!!

The animal has to be shot...and killed if your gonna eat it, no way around that. :)

A heart and lung shot is not a majestic shot, all the damage is done inside the animal so you do not see most of it is which works out for all the squeamish little girls out there. They do not lay down, nod proudly at you and die from it...

This animal did NOT suffer, meat was NOT wasn't. The shot may be a hard one for you...but not all. it was a faster death and much less pain and suffering then a heart/lung shot would have caused. That, by definition is what I called respect. If you cannot pull off a head shot, don't but not do cry when others can, and do.

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This shot was so "effective" all be it graphic due to the type of .243Win bullet that it was shot at...the head, which is on top of that a very small target which means it will be a more dramatic effect. If he used an FMJ it wouldn't have been as explosive but possibly wouldn't have been as effect if his shot was off...but hey if looking pretty is all that matters, break the law and use FMJs!!!

Tere is no such thing as overkill. Dead is dead.
 
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Kelly Timoffee said:
This is part of hunting , it isn't unfortunate and it shouldn't be apologized for.If it is too much for someone to handle then maybe the reality of hunting isn't for you.

I don't like turnips so it is simple, I stay away from them. ;)
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Do not waste energy on things you do not approve/like.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Taking a shot like that while culling on an estate makes sense. But under real hunting scenarios it's unlikely that you could make that shot reliably. But to show a slow-mo ultra close up of it just means that you're a sick voyeur that gets off on gore an dkilling. It has nothing to do with hunting. No different than dummies that post videos of themselves shooting gophers at close range with a shotgun or blowing them up in the air using large rifle. Just tasteless.
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The video shows how effective and how the round works/causes damage. You were warned more then once and DID NOT HAVE TO WATCH IT!!! You all knew it was a headshot...

So killing...from a distance is different then close up? Its better to prolong the death as long as you cannot see it? If your gonna kill something, KILL IT...it doesn't have to be pretty or majestic...being fast and efficient at it trumps all.
 
Brutus said:
A clean harvest is a clean harvest IMO. What I find just a tad little bit concerning is doing this in an area known for CWD. (Perhaps if I had a teenage son, who was very impressionable, I would not allow him to repeatedly watch this graphic video over and over again) This kind of shot could compromise the handler's or consumer's health? Maybe. What do you guys think? Am I full of it or what??
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Again...it was made in a separate video from the original show, you were warned and an 18+ tag was required.

Google...type ANYTHING in (and remove the content blocker which a 9 year old can do) and you will see 1000s of videos and pictures of naked people, self mutilations, murder, rape, ect. ect. You cannot hide things from people, only advise them to make smart choices. At the same time...do not purposely inform youth and impressionable people about this videos and content and curiosity sooner or later gets everyone.
 
And that's one of the reasons why I don't often use a 22 on gophers anymore ...

Massive trauma = immediate if not instant death, no suffering.

jeffcarr88 said:
The video shows how effective and how the round works/causes damage. You were warned more then once and DID NOT HAVE TO WATCH IT!!! You all knew it was a headshot...

So killing...from a distance is different then close up? Its better to prolong the death as long as you cannot see it? If your gonna kill something, KILL IT...it doesn't have to be pretty or majestic...being fast and efficient at it trumps all.
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jeffcarr88 said:
Again...it was made in a separate video from the original show, you were warned and an 18+ tag was required.

Google...type ANYTHING in (and remove the content blocker which a 9 year old can do) and you will see 1000s of videos and pictures of naked people, self mutilations, murder, rape, ect. ect. You cannot hide things from people, only advise them to make smart choices. At the same time...do not purposely inform youth and impressionable people about this videos and content and curiosity sooner or later gets everyone.
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Sure......you have a valid opinion too.
 
I don't see what the issue is. If one is able to make a headshot, why not? The death of the animal is instantaneous, and I seriously doubt if it felt anything at all. Isn't that the holy grail of hunting? We take great effort to get as close as possible, to allow for a kill shot that reduces the animals suffering as much as possible. This is ethical hunting no? The headshot reduces the animals suffering to ZERO.
 
Brutus said:
What I find just a tad little bit concerning is doing this in an area known for CWD. This kind of shot could compromise the handler's or consumer's health? Maybe. What do you guys think? Am I full of it or what??
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This is what I would be concerned about too, it doesn't exactly meet any guideline for dealing with possible transmissible spongiform encephalopathies like CWD or "Mad Cow Disease". You certainly don't want the brain matter being spread everywhere which would increase the possibility of transmission.
 
OEM said:
I don't see what the issue is. If one is able to make a headshot, why not? The death of the animal is instantaneous, and I seriously doubt if it felt anything at all. Isn't that the holy grail of hunting? We take great effort to get as close as possible, to allow for a kill shot that reduces the animals suffering as much as possible. This is ethical hunting no? The headshot reduces the animals suffering to ZERO.
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But But...you need to have skills, get to a reasonable distance away and have patience to wait for the right time to do that!!! MUCH easier to use your .300WSM on a white tail deer and gut shoot it from your truck and then follow the blood trail. Plus...that way is also more ethical cause its the norm and the one thing you CANNOT do is mix up the norm...what are all the old dudes at the gun shop/range gonna think of you then?!?!?!
 
PegCity said:
This is what I would be concerned about too, it doesn't exactly meet any guideline for dealing with possible transmissible spongiform encephalopathies like CWD or "Mad Cow Disease". You certainly don't want the brain matter being spread everywhere which would increase the possibility of transmission.
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Republic of Alberta said:
Would love to do a close up and slow motion of a lung shot or heart shot animal as it runs away, blood pouring out of it. Get really close in there when it falls, blood streaming out it's nose and mouth, gurgling sounds and thrashing as it fights to get some air. Then really pan in there and slow it right down and play some violin music when it stiffens it's legs, shudders for a second then dies.

Obviously many people on here have never actually killed anything. Perhaps some of those that have are just raging narcissists that believe so highly of them selves that even when killing something it doesn't actually die when THEY do it. I don't know, but it's even more sickening to watch than that head shot video was....
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as close as i could find lol. you do see the blood spraying out, even at that distance.

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jeffcarr88 said:
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This might me a non-issue issue to yourself jeffcarr88. But here in central Alberta, not far away there are WMU zones next to the Saskatchewan border, that have had recent & generous game managemant culls and mandatory reporting for the last five years or thereabouts. And in the last few years, game regulations have outlined safe handling practices of carcasses in suspected areas.

just info
 
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