ACR Media and Info Thread

Let me start off by saying I hate air soft junk. Well with the complete lack of support for the ACR from bushmaster we're left with few options. So I said I'll give it a try it's only less than $100 if it breaks melts oh well. At least I get to see how the magpul hand guard feels. I found a FDE one in stock. Couldn't find black. It went right on no problem. I was concerned about the front end where it attaches to rifle is just in the plastic. But it seems fine so far. I had it out. Put couple hundred rounds through. Couple beo mags rapidly just to see if it would get hot. It didn't. All in all I'm happy with it. I ordered the longer version. It'll have to do until I can get the real deal. If anybody finds it in black let me know. I'll take one. I was thinking I have an extra cheek rest I might send out to have cerakoted FDE. It might look all right then


Hey, I was wondering how these would look two-toned....not too bad at all. A tan stock to finish the look?

I also wondered what the difference with regular Magpul and Magpul PTS. How much would Magpul be saving in costs to manufacture two different formulas of plastic? I'm not sure about handguards and other furniture, but when I first got into shooting, I had the Magpul PTS BUIS on my AR and they started to crack at the mounting points. It seems that the concensus with their ACR handguards is that they do hold up to the abuse.
 
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Hey, I was wondering how these would look two-toned....not too bad at all. A tan stock to finish the look?

I also wondered what the difference with regular Magpul and Magpul PTS. How much would Magpul be saving in costs to manufacture two different formulas of plastic? I'm not sure about handguards and other furniture, but when I first got into shooting, I had the Magpul PTS BUIS on my AR and they started to crack at the mounting points. It seems that the concensus with their ACR handguards is that they do hold up to the abuse.


Hopefully it holds up. I really like the length. Light and comfortable.
The "plastic" seems really good. Same as pmags and other magpul parts. As far as I can tell by handling it. If that means anything at all. The pin isn't the same as the ACR enhanced. It requires a clip to hold pin in place. Works just fine. My only real concern is the front attachment points on the rifle just slide into grooves in the plastic. But it's on there rock solid so who knows might last just fine.
Yeah I have a fixed stock. I might take cheek riser off and have that cerakoted FDE. That would help a bit. Or I could just have the handguard cerakoted black.

Here's another pic. The longer version helps hide some of the barrel. It also allows for the thumb over the top grip or whatever they call it

 
Hey, I was wondering how these would look two-toned....not too bad at all. A tan stock to finish the look?

I also wondered what the difference with regular Magpul and Magpul PTS. How much would Magpul be saving in costs to manufacture two different formulas of plastic? I'm not sure about handguards and other furniture, but when I first got into shooting, I had the Magpul PTS BUIS on my AR and they started to crack at the mounting points. It seems that the concensus with their ACR handguards is that they do hold up to the abuse.

Magpul PTS is "Professional Training System" Their licensed airsoft line. They contract out various Chinese companies to make them and depending on what company makes what, it can range from acceptable quality to absolute garbage depending on who makes what.

Their stocks, forends, and the like are generally of good quality, but dollar for dollar you might as well get a real one for the 20 extra bucks.
 
Magpul PTS is "Professional Training System" Their licensed airsoft line. They contract out various Chinese companies to make them and depending on what company makes what, it can range from acceptable quality to absolute garbage depending on who makes what.

Their stocks, forends, and the like are generally of good quality, but dollar for dollar you might as well get a real one for the 20 extra bucks.

Is it possible to buy that long hand guard? Buy directly from Bushmaster or whoever the ACR distributor is in Canada?
 
Is it possible to buy that long hand guard? Buy directly from Bushmaster or whoever the ACR distributor is in Canada?

I think the long version is only PTS.
Gravel Agency is the Canadian importer for Bushmaster and the only place to order parts from. Wolverine used to carry parts but I haven't seen anything on their site in a while.
 
Is it possible to buy that long hand guard? Buy directly from Bushmaster or whoever the ACR distributor is in Canada?

I think unfortunately it's only airsoft. I've pre ordered the regular length real deal handguard from wolverine. I spoke with them and like everyone we're waiting for bushmaster to make some. But I know I'm not going to like it as much. The long one is just long enough for the way I like to hold the rifle.
 
Hi All,

My ACR arrived from Wanstalls yesterday, and I snapped a couple of quick pics. Yes, it was previously enjoyed, but low round count and in terrific shape. The previous owner kept all the goodies like the mags, the sights and the case, but I didn't care, I got an ACR for a obscenely low price.

Anyway, a couple of shots:

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Of course, with all those rails, I had to find every accessory I had in the spare parts bin to bolt to it:

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So, I'm not really sure if this is accurate, but I'm getting the vibe that folks who have the new enhanced ACR prefer the plastic hand guard? The aluminum/pic rail hand guard doesn't feel like it weighs a ton, but I guess bits add up?

Definitely not a light rifle to lug around, but it's not horrible like people make it out to be. Hopefully I'll get a chance to try her out this weekend.

So, there's no heat shield with the aluminum hand guard but there is with the plastic Magpul one? I've been lurking over at the ACRforum and there was 14 pages of guys mucking around with an Airsoft handguard so I got curious. I really like how it looks like the Remington ACR handguard (that is supposedly unobtainium). The next closest thing would be the Clandestine one, but I've been reading that the guy is next to impossible to get a hold of, and his webpage shows sold out of everything. A couple of Carbon fibre options

And also kemod options, and yes, it's probably very functional, but it looks a bit weird:

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And this one seems to be another popular one, not a fan of the way it's mounted:

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So, I searched high and low for the WE MSK hand guard and it is not sold on its own unless in private hands. No where to be found. I contacted WE and they referred me to their HK distributors who were complete retards. They took forever to get back to me, said it was backordered by two months and would cost about half the cost of a complete Airsoft rifle. Anyway, I found a used one that arrived today (day after my real one arrived) and thew on the hand guard from it for a quick test fit and surprisingly it fit rather snug, except for a bit of wobble in the front as discussed over on the ACRforum. A solution has been found, so I'll get around to doing it properly, but for now, I McGyvered a quick and dirty solution and we'll see if my ghetto method works. You'll see, it's pretty ghetto, and most of you will probably shake your heads thinking what a moron, but it feels solid (for now). No heatshield with the Airsoft version, but then again, no heatshield with the original one either.

Time will tell if this was a waste of time or not, but for now, it seems like it will work, and I've got a airsoft rifle with no hand guard to sell, lol!

Before I post pics, I have to say that these Airsoft guns are being made better and better. Putting the two side by side, it was damn near hard to tell at a quick glance which was real and which was not. The look, the feel, and even the weight isn't far off. Anyway, on to the pics:

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Bottom one was the Airsoft one. I was just stripping the real one down when the doorbell rang and the Airsoft version appeared.

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So, the guys on the ACRforum replaced the screws from the WE unit with some screws they found at Lowe's (will have to visit soon) called M5 screws...no idea what that means, but hope the local Lowe's has them...couldn't find them at Home Depot today. So, this is what they've been doing:

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As quoted from the thread:

Brass shims made from M5 threaded 10mm long brass stand-offs.

Did as much as my patience allowed me to on the mill to keep consistency. The "height" of the slot in the receiver is 0.250" +/- 0.002 depending on the side.
Take 0.030" off one side of the stand off. Take off the remainder on the other. From point to point diameter wise on the stand off they were 0.310"
Mill the 45° cut.
The distance between an M5 screw's threads and the end of the depth of the slot is super small. Maybe 0.002".
I had to VERY lightly use the grinder and primarily hand files to get the rest shape. Brass is easy to work with at least.

With the shims there is 0 play. Of course since it is brass they will give over time. Better the 30c shims than the anodized aluminum of the receiver since the steel M5 screws will win that battle.

The M5 screws are not the original that came with the HG. The original M5 screws have the threads turned down at the end.

Then there's the ghetto method I tried:

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Rubber plugs jammed into a .22lr shell casing cut down to about just under half size, then capped on to the factory WE screws.

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Now, if I can find a permanent way to affix the 22 shell casings on to the factory WE screw tips, it would probably work. Right now there's zero wobble, but as I said earlier, time will tell.
 
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Thanks for posting, it's beautiful!!!

#### that thing is nice.

Thanks guys! I'm really digging the clean look of the MSK hand guard. It's clean, and if I want to bold accessories to it, I can always put the rails back on.

I recently dropped a Jard single stage adjustable trigger in one of my ARs and I have a new found appreciate for after market triggers. It says it's tuneable down to 1.5lbs, but it feels like a fart could set it off, lol! I'll be looking at option (s) for this rifle soon. That Geissele unit is a bit pricy, but it'll be worth having a nicer trigger in this rifle.

Will also be looking at picking up an NR barrel and getting her de-restricted. Any thoughts on the best barrel on the market? Dlask? Arms East? Others? I don't mind a heavier profile if I can squeeze more accuracy out of this rifle. If the airsoft handguard takes a crap, I will probably dump it and put the original hand guard on it. It does look good though doesn't it? Damn you Remington/Bushmaser, lol! Release the real deal already, hahahaha!
 
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Herron Arms can make what you want. Has done good work for me so far on a few conversions and accuracy is very good

Thanks! I'll check them out as well.

Damn, that airsoft is hard to tell from the real thing! Let us know how that MSK hand guard holds up, looks great.

I stripped them both down for photos last night (will post some more if anyone is interested) to compare the two and there were times when I had to take a closer look to make sure which was which. Maybe it's just because I'm new to ACRs, but yeah, damn, they sure make them appear realistic.

There was still gas in the magazine so I dry-fired it on semi and auto and it was pretty need watching the bolt carrier cycle back and forth.

Yeah, I'll keep you guys posted about the hand guard. It feels pretty damn solid, and by the look of it, probably made out of better material than my GSG 1911 slide. Some of the guys on the ACRforum have been running these hand guards for at least a year and half. Maybe I'll pop in again to see if any of them have had any long-term issues.
 
FYI - you don't need to use the Geissele Super ACR trigger - any aftermarket AR trigger should work, as long as you can bend the one spring leg to fit in that little groove.

Also - Herron Arms is where you want to go for your ACR barrel. He spends a lot of time making it fit perfectly - and you'll get a more accurate rifle (in my opinion) than a Dlask/ArmsEast barrel.

I've had three Herron Arms ACRs - the best one was the Bartlein barreled one - shot under an inch at 100 with my handloads.
 
Herron Arms can make what you want. Has done good work for me so far on a few conversions and accuracy is very good

FYI - you don't need to use the Geissele Super ACR trigger - any aftermarket AR trigger should work, as long as you can bend the one spring leg to fit in that little groove.

Also - Herron Arms is where you want to go for your ACR barrel. He spends a lot of time making it fit perfectly - and you'll get a more accurate rifle (in my opinion) than a Dlask/ArmsEast barrel.

I've had three Herron Arms ACRs - the best one was the Bartlein barreled one - shot under an inch at 100 with my handloads.

Oh, I saw that mod earlier in this thread, I'll have to go back and look again. Barrels, triggers, sights, optics, ammo..........it's starting to pile up and I've gotten really stupid with the spending lately so I may have to cool it for a while. EE and this forum are pretty hard on the wallet, lol!
 
FYI - you don't need to use the Geissele Super ACR trigger - any aftermarket AR trigger should work, as long as you can bend the one spring leg to fit in that little groove.

Also - Herron Arms is where you want to go for your ACR barrel. He spends a lot of time making it fit perfectly - and you'll get a more accurate rifle (in my opinion) than a Dlask/ArmsEast barrel.

I've had three Herron Arms ACRs - the best one was the Bartlein barreled one - shot under an inch at 100 with my handloads.

I am happy that you are happy with the product you have chosen. Obviously your opinion about the barrel you own would be formed by the fact that you own it and have used it. What I don't understand is mentioning that in your opinion it will be more accurate than (either of?) our offered barrels. Is this opinion based experience with our product somehow or just your knowledge and satisfaction with the item you already own?

We are pretty proud of our barrels and their fit too. ;)
 
I am happy that you are happy with the product you have chosen. Obviously your opinion about the barrel you own would be formed by the fact that you own it and have used it. What I don't understand is mentioning that in your opinion it will be more accurate than (either of?) our offered barrels. Is this opinion based experience with our product somehow or just your knowledge and satisfaction with the item you already own?

We are pretty proud of our barrels and their fit too. ;)

No offence implied Walt - I was simply saying that Ian can use higher quality blanks if requested. I must admit, I'm not sure on the maker of your blanks - I'm assuming Green Mountain? And any accuracy 'differences' noted by me are anecodtal - simply comparing my results to those owners on CGN with different barrels.

Either way, I'm just glad there are MULTIPLE sources for NR ACR barrels, as well as the ability to 'do it yourself'. The NR ACR's out there, the better!
 
I am happy that you are happy with the product you have chosen. Obviously your opinion about the barrel you own would be formed by the fact that you own it and have used it. What I don't understand is mentioning that in your opinion it will be more accurate than (either of?) our offered barrels. Is this opinion based experience with our product somehow or just your knowledge and satisfaction with the item you already own?

We are pretty proud of our barrels and their fit too. ;)

It's pretty cool that you guys are making complete, non-restricted ACRs available for a pretty stellar price. It used to be that the average price for an NR ACR on EE was what, $4k? $2890 is a helluva bargain!
 
Well i'm late to the ACR party, But I just bought a Herron Arms converted enhanced ACR. Hopefully I will enjoy this as much as I enjoyed my AR's.
 
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