Acr parts

ntm said:
No you're looking at around $1000 per assembly by the time your done. That's a pretty crappy ar.
On the flip side, my lmt mws barrels were that much per unit, and I have four of them...
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Won't be that much if we can find a source for the barrel that doesn't rape us. These are slightly modified AR barrels and the best price we've seen so far is about $200 more than a decent AR barrel.
I'm talking with a gunsmith buddy of mine to see if we can do better than that and still have it worth his time to do the work.
I don't think one of these barrels (stripped) should be more than $300 for a basic barrel and maybe $400-$500 for a high grade barrel. We'll see what he says and if he can source blanks for the project.
 
cr5 said:
Won't be that much if we can find a source for the barrel that doesn't rape us. These are slightly modified AR barrels and the best price we've seen so far is about $200 more than a decent AR barrel.
I'm talking with a gunsmith buddy of mine to see if we can do better than that and still have it worth his time to do the work.
I don't think one of these barrels (stripped) should be more than $300 for a basic barrel and maybe $400-$500 for a high grade barrel. We'll see what he says and if he can source blanks for the project.
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I don't think the parts are that high anymore either, the last prices I saw on them were much lower than what was referenced above.
 
ntm said:
I don't think the parts are that high anymore either, the last prices I saw on them were much lower than what was referenced above.
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Well then it's looking more and more likely that between the two guys I'm working with we will be able to turn out kits for a reasonable price and get all these ACR's off the CFC database.
Would be no reason we couldn't also make barrels of any length and contour to take care of the guys that want to go shorter as well.

Once we work out the details I'll post on here as to who to contact and how much they will be.
 
cr5 said:
Well then it's looking more and more likely that between the two guys I'm working with we will be able to turn out kits for a reasonable price and get all these ACR's off the CFC database.
Would be no reason we couldn't also make barrels of any length and contour to take care of the guys that want to go shorter as well.

Once we work out the details I'll post on here as to who to contact and how much they will be.
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Nice, I'd be in for a few, ranging from 12" up to 18.5".

I'm waiting on the quote back from one shot on the parts, and a quote from Herron arms for a krieger 18.5" build using the recycled gas parts from the stock barrel.
 
cr5 said:
I thought the conversion kits for the XCR were $700? Or is $550 just the barrel?
Dlask is selling barrels for $500 but we still don't know if that is complete with gas system or stripped barrel ready for your gas system to be installed. I can't see it being complete as the parts for the gas system are that much by themselves.

I'm still waiting for a reply from them to clarify.
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$700 is for the barrel, complete bolt and defector.
$500 is just for the barrel.

I thought ACR is suppose to be multi caliber rifle, but so far they have not produce any barrel changing options?

ntm said:
I've had several xcr's, they are not accurate rifles.
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Depends on what do you mean by 'accurate'.

Also I would be very careul about bringing in short barrels for the ACR...The RCMP might just reclassify ACR.
That is why you do not see any barrel shorter than 18.6" for the XCR yet...
 
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ntm said:
Nice, I'd be in for a few, ranging from 12" up to 18.5".

I'm waiting on the quote back from one shot on the parts, and a quote from Herron arms for a krieger 18.5" build using the recycled gas parts from the stock barrel.
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I have been waiting for a couple months to get a price from Herron, I wouldn't hold your breath. Dlask replied to me within a day, 500 for their barrel installed and rifle re registered is what I was told
 
andrew3081 said:
$700 is for the barrel, complete bolt and defector.
$500 is just for the barrel.

I thought ACR is suppose to be multi caliber rifle, but so far they have not produce any barrel changing options?



Depends on what do you mean by 'accurate'.

Also I would be very careul about bringing in short barrels for the ACR...The RCMP might just reclassify ACR.
That is why you do not see any barrel shorter than 18.6" for the XCR yet...
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I mean under 2 moa, to be useful for gophers and coyotes, which aren't large targets at 200 to 300 yards.
The barrel attachment method is the main problem on the xcr.

The acr is already a restricted rifle, based upon its 16" barrel length.
But can be registered as nonrestricted with a replacement 18.5" barrel.
 
andrew3081 said:
$700 is for the barrel, complete bolt and defector.
$500 is just for the barrel.

I thought ACR is suppose to be multi caliber rifle, but so far they have not produce any barrel changing options?



Depends on what do you mean by 'accurate'.

Also I would be very careul about bringing in short barrels for the ACR...The RCMP might just reclassify ACR.
That is why you do not see any barrel shorter than 18.6" for the XCR yet...
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So it's the same price for a barrel and I'm working on sourcing us a better deal.
Multi-cal? yes but because of the buying frenzy in the US over the last year they limited production to trying to keep up with the demand for the 16 inch barrel. Our demand up here is a tiny fraction of what the Americans want and they can run around with a 16 inch so that's what the demand was for.

Careful about what? They are already restricted. We could build 6 inch barrels if we could get the piston to work at that length and it would still just be restricted. One of the guys I'm working with is working on getting an 8.5 inch to working reliably. Still just restricted.

Accurate? I like my HK SL8-4 and I don't see any reason the ACR can't produce similar results with a quality barrel.
The problem with the XCR for accuracy is the way the barrel is mounted. It can shift and the bolt can back out. It is great if you are happy with 3 MOA and yes I know a few guys have gotten better but I don't think a black rifle should need to wait 5 minutes between shots in order to let the barrel cool to remain consistent.
My SL8, AR's, and pretty much everything else I shoot gets the next shot within 10 seconds of the last and if the groups open up I sell the rifle. My SL8 is doing about 1 MOA at 100yds with each shot going off as soon as I have a steady picture in the crosshairs (off bags of course). No XCR is going to repeat that.
I'm not bashing the XCR so don't get defensive, I used to want one really bad and I've shot quite a few of them and like them but they just aren't what I'm looking for. Install the lighter contour barrel and change the way the barrel mounts and I may just change my opinion of them. Everything else is good in my opinion. Maybe also make the side and bottom rails removable :)
 
ACR would be reclassified as restricted by name like Ar15.
So your 18.5" barrel ACR will still be restricted.

Wolverine supplies mentioned about not importing shorter xcr barrel for the above reason on one of the other thread.
 
Brian46 said:
Dlask replied to me within a day, 500 for their barrel installed and rifle re registered is what I was told
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Hmm... that makes a little more sense... $500 is too pricey for a stripped barrel, and way to cheap to include gas parts.

$500 to strip old barrel, place on new blank - that's pretty decent!
 
andrew3081 said:
ACR would be reclassified as restricted by name like Ar15.
So your 18.5" barrel ACR will still be restricted.

Wolverine supplies mentioned about not importing shorter xcr barrel for the above reason on one of the other thread.
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Why would they restrict it by name? People are alredy doing shorter barrels and converting then from restricted to non restricted and back again to restricted with no issue.
 
andrew3081 said:
ACR would be reclassified as restricted by name like Ar15.
So your 18.5" barrel ACR will still be restricted.

Wolverine supplies mentioned about not importing shorter xcr barrel for the above reason on one of the other thread.
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Your confused.

The ACR is already restricted because of the factory barrel length.
The ACR is not an AR-15 military rifle so it has no more chance of becoming restricted or prohibited by name than your XCR does.
The ACR has nothing about it that any other non restricted rifle has once it has an 18.5 inch barrel.

I hope that helps, if your just trolling then do it somewhere else.


Wolverine won't import a shorter barrel but they will import the pistol version?
 
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Brian46 said:
Dlask replied to me within a day, 500 for their barrel installed and rifle re registered is what I was told
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So you still haven't clarified.
Is that $500 installed using your factory gas system? Or $500 with all new parts and you get to keep your factory barrel complete with gas system?
Sounds to me like $500 and they will swap over the gas system from your old barrel which shouldn't take more than 20 minutes worth of work and then call the CFC and have it re-classed which should be about 5 minutes worth of talking once they get through to them.

I want to keep my 12.5 inch functional and ready to go.
 
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I'm looking for an option to either buy a complete kit or just a stripped barrel for around $300 and source my own parts then take it to a local verifier for re-classification.
 
I've got no problem paying $500 to $600 for a stripped barrel, as long as it's built from a quality stainless blank. Like a krieger or bartlein.
 
cr5 said:
So you still haven't clarified.
Is that $500 installed using your factory gas system? Or $500 with all new parts and you get to keep your factory barrel complete with gas system?
Sounds to me like $500 and they will swap over the gas system from your old barrel which shouldn't take more than 20 minutes worth of work and then call the CFC and have it re-classed which should be about 5 minutes worth of talking once they get through to them.

I want to keep my 12.5 inch functional and ready to go.
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they are swaping parts your gas system parts (I thought that was clear in my post), the average person isn't going to swap back and forth due to the verification a smith has to do and then call to the cfc to have the status changed each time.

Sure you could switch it just at the range, but the RCMP are frequent visitors in my province so I wouldn't take that chance.
 
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