Africa hunting video "amazing"
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that's one of the worst things i've seen in life... and i totally disagree with calling it even trophy hunting... there's a lioness being shot in the video... what trophy is she?
the bad thing is that you can buy a lot of people in these poor countries with a few $$$... i've seen countries loosing species from such bloody hunts, and i really stop and think... where's 1st world and where's 3rd world??? is this civilization??? i hope i don't see "YES" as an answer!!! killing just to have an extra head on the wall??? i agree with hunting if they'll eat what they're hunting, but throw the whole thing away and just taking the head home!!!
plus as said above i'm sure it's not helping the people in any real way... let's not put lipstick on the ugly witch!!!
the bad thing is that you can buy a lot of people in these poor countries with a few $$$... i've seen countries loosing species from such bloody hunts, and i really stop and think... where's 1st world and where's 3rd world??? is this civilization??? i hope i don't see "YES" as an answer!!! killing just to have an extra head on the wall??? i agree with hunting if they'll eat what they're hunting, but throw the whole thing away and just taking the head home!!!
plus as said above i'm sure it's not helping the people in any real way... let's not put lipstick on the ugly witch!!!
Which country, which species?
The meat doesn't get wasted. It is consumed my humans.
Giving people employment and food is not helping?
Wow, read the thread at all? I don't think so. Been to Africa? Again, I doubt it or you would not have made the ridiculous emotional remarks you have....
I ate the meat from animals that I killed while I was in camp. The meat was also given to the employees to help support their families. In some of the more inhospitible areas, hunting is the primary employee of locals. So the answer is YES.....
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Next time then.
(Isn't it hard for an impatient man to wait in one of those WS line-ups?)
Or maybe I'll just go on that Sask gopher safari you organize and just bring extra food....... and beverages......... and ammo.......
Ahh, screwed again! I just got back from Calgary not 10 minutes ago. I had to stop into WSS up there.
Next time then.
(Isn't it hard for an impatient man to wait in one of those WS line-ups?)Or maybe I'll just go on that Sask gopher safari you organize and just bring extra food.......
and beverages......... and ammo.......
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Once the argument becomes this emotional there is little that can be pointed out to change the poster's position. However, I will say that if the animals are not seen as valuable to the lives of the African people, those animals are doomed. They pose a deadly threat to the population and in the case of the farms, they pose a serious threat to cattle and crops. If the "poor" Africans had their way the game would of been extinct generations ago, but fortunately the revenue from hunting has been able to stand that off despite wide spread poaching that has left areas, like the Moyowosi, once one of the jewels for trophy buffalo hunting but now left terribly affected. You have to understand that poaching in Africa is not a guy going out with a rifle and shooting out of season. It involves snare lines made from cables that are miles in length. These snare lines kill everything. In the long term the game might be doomed anyway, but should that be the case at least I've had the opportunity to go there and experience wild Africa the way it should be seen and experienced.
Photo safaris suck, I know because we did that after the hunting safari. Hunting puts you on the ground with the game rather than viewing it from a safari car that you are trapped in for 10 hours a day.
Photo Safari vs Hunting Safari
Attractive isn't it . . .
When hunting you become part of the environment . . .
Game suitable for human consumption is consumed . . .
Individual game animals don't live forever, a point often overlooked by the anti-everything-folks. So what happens to the meat of an animal that dies in nature. Nothing is wasted, it goes to those animals that make a living by cleaning up the carcasses. Why would you want hyenas, lions, jackals, marabou and saddle-billed storks to be deprived of the animal that by right should be theirs? Doesn't sound like you have much heart at all for the non-game animals. The true trophy animal killed by the hunter's bullet has won the lottery; his death is far easier than the one offered him by nature. He doesn't care who eats him, and the true trophy in many cases is not fit for human consumption due to the animal's advanced age. Perhaps these things need to be considered before making flawed emotional arguments on a subject you have little understanding of.
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Once the argument becomes this emotional there is little that can be pointed out to change the poster's position. However, I will say that if the animals are not seen as valuable to the lives of the African people, those animals are doomed. They pose a deadly threat to the population and in the case of the farms, they pose a serious threat to cattle and crops. If the "poor" Africans had their way the game would of been extinct generations ago, but fortunately the revenue from hunting has been able to stand that off despite wide spread poaching that has left areas, like the Moyowosi, once one of the jewels for trophy buffalo hunting but now left terribly affected. You have to understand that poaching in Africa is not a guy going out with a rifle and shooting out of season. It involves snare lines made from cables that are miles in length. These snare lines kill everything. In the long term the game might be doomed anyway, but should that be the case at least I've had the opportunity to go there and experience wild Africa the way it should be seen and experienced.
Photo safaris suck, I know because we did that after the hunting safari. Hunting puts you on the ground with the game rather than viewing it from a safari car that you are trapped in for 10 hours a day.
Photo Safari vs Hunting Safari
Attractive isn't it . . .
When hunting you become part of the environment . . .
Game suitable for human consumption is consumed . . .
Individual game animals don't live forever, a point often overlooked by the anti-everything-folks. So what happens to the meat of an animal that dies in nature. Nothing is wasted, it goes to those animals that make a living by cleaning up the carcasses. Why would you want hyenas, lions, jackals, marabou and saddle-billed storks to be deprived of the animal that by right should be theirs? Doesn't sound like you have much heart at all for the non-game animals. The true trophy animal killed by the hunter's bullet has won the lottery; his death is far easier than the one offered him by nature. He doesn't care who eats him, and the true trophy in many cases is not fit for human consumption due to the animal's advanced age. Perhaps these things need to be considered before making flawed emotional arguments on a subject you have little understanding of.
Thats an excellent response Boomer. I get tired of the guys who see themselves as heros who are saving the "poor" Africans by shooting animals. It is their $$$ that make the difference, especially from a conservation perspective.
