AK-47 and AR-15 had a baby the caliber would be .300 Black-out?

You're missing the point of the 300BLK.
You can use it in any rifle that currently runs 223/5.56 with a simple barrel swap, no other parts required.
same can be said for 7.62x39 and 50 beowulf.
You know which one I would choose.

You get a much cheaper plinking round than 223 even with non corrosive and the biggest round available that feeds from a STANAG patter magazine
 
You're comparing the government giving something to close to half the population of the country who are also considered a visible minority who have been discriminated against for all of history and also not looked at as a bunch of crazy potential criminals who could go on a rampage at any second to gun owners who are a huge minority and hated by the fearful ignorant brainwashed masses.
Also add to that they made it so the mother and father can split that one year leave and they just gave that benefit to the entire population of the country who ever plan on procreating.
That wasn't done because they give a crap about women's rights or doing the right thing morally, it was entirely to get votes from as many people as possible, and that's it.

I hope you're right but they really have nothing to gain by giving us more rights other than a few votes they already have. They would lose more support than they gain by giving us more freedom.
Who else are we going to vote for and how many votes from the sheeple would they lose?

Hell, just look at the last provincial election here in Alberta, now we're NDP. We're doomed.
So you are saying we need more women shooters to make the male portion less "crazy" and more mainstream....gotcha...and I'm on it.Just signed up three more ladies to our regular Bullseye league!We had Bob Rae in Ontario when he was NDP and that was alot of fun!Ontario got in the red very quick and Bob with his "Rae Days" switched to the Liberals to keep his pension on track.Conservatives came back and straightened everything out and now the Liberals are at it again!f:P:2:
 
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Aren't you running 450 Bushmaster in your rifle?
more than one ACR now

I am going to look into the 30 AR barrel and parts as well since it uses the same bolt face as my 450. I wish there was more commercial availability of these calibers rather than reloading.

edit, I see Remington is producing factory 30 AR ammunition
 
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So you are saying we need more women shooters to make the male portion less "crazy" and more mainstream....gotcha...and I'm on it.Just signed up three more ladies to our regular Bullseye league!

I'm saying that comparing the government giving rights to women that they should have had in the first place that pretty much every person with any capability for rational thought would agree with is not a fair comparison to giving gun owners more freedoms.
More women shooters always helps, more shooters period is what we need, that's why I take every opportunity I can to take anyone I can convince to come to the range with me and introduce them to shooting.

The other day my wife's mother was over and I showed her my latest AR build and the first thing she said was that she was scared. That's how brainwashed our population has become. By the end of the conversation I had her interested in coming out to the range to try my 22 pistol, my 9mm AR and my 10/22 (no recoil). Took a while to convince her that a rifle wasn't going to load itself and start killing everyone within range but once she accepted that it's just a tool no more dangerous that a sharp stick in the wrong hands she relaxed and started listening and gaining interest.
We need to get it through the heads of the rest of the country that it isn't guns that are the problem it's the criminals and mentally unstable who have access to them and the fact that the rest of us don't have the right to carry one to protect ourselves and others is why so many die when some nut goes on a shooting spree. I think that if people who wanted to carry were properly trained, screened and licensed that when these tragedies occur the gunman could be stopped a lot sooner and before the body count gets higher if citizens were carrying. Look to the US for proof of this, the highest rates of gun crime are in the states with the highest gun control.

Sh!t, sorry, went on a rant there. What were we talking about again? lol
 
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more than one ACR now

I am going to look into the 30 AR barrel and parts as well since it uses the same bolt face as my 450. I wish there was more commercial availability of these calibers rather than reloading.

edit, I see Remington is producing factory 30 AR ammunition

More than one ACR or more than one conversion kit?

Why don't you just start reloading and make things significantly cheaper when shooting your cool calibers?
 
More than one ACR or more than one conversion kit?
both, the goal is 30AR and 450 in the one and x39 and 50 in the other. That way the bolt stays the same and just swap barrels

Why don't you just start reloading and make things significantly cheaper when shooting your cool calibers?
time is the largest factor, I bill out $100 min an hour for work so I need to save more than $100hr by reloading to make the investment (equipment an time) worth it. Too many expensive hobbies and not enough time to do it all

My friend reloads 50 Beowulf or I wouldn't have considered it
 
both, the goal is 30AR and 450 in the one and x39 and 50 in the other. That way the bolt stays the same and just swap barrels

time is the largest factor, I bill out $100 min an hour for work so I need to save more than $100hr by reloading to make the investment (equipment an time) worth it. Too many expensive hobbies and not enough time to do it all

My friend reloads 50 Beowulf or I wouldn't have considered it

So, you're available for work 24 hrs. a day, 365 days a year? I find that very hard to believe.

It's ok to say that reloading isn't your cup of tea but to say your downtime is costing you a $100 is a bit of a stretch.
 
So, you're available for work 24 hrs. a day, 365 days a year? I find that very hard to believe.

It's ok to say that reloading isn't your cup of tea but to say your downtime is costing you a $100 is a bit of a stretch.

Yup, my thoughts exactly.
Work pays me pretty good but I do my reloading when I'm on days or evenings off instead of sitting in front of a TV or when I've had enough of CGN for a while.
Once you've got your equipment set up you can make quite a lot of ammo in a couple hours. The worst part is case prep but even that is getting better now that I bought the RCBS case prep center, now I just need a better case trimmer.

The best part is making premium ammo tailored to your rifle using your choice of projectiles for whatever the function required. For instance, my 300BLK I have cheaper 110gr plinking/varmint loads just for general fun, 155gr A-max loads that will shoot sub moa for showing off at the range and deer hunting, 208gr subsonic loads for some quieter fun that really swing the gongs at 100yds.

I have too many expensive and time consuming hobbies as well so I know what you're saying but there is always some free time when the weather isn't cooperating or my buddies are busy.
 
Or 7.62x45 that's in the new AK-12's

Sounds interesting but doesn't sound like it will fit into an AR-15 magazine or action. Going to have to look into that one :)

Edit, found some info.
http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Misc/7.62x45.html
No thanks, using .311 bullets leaves you with very few choices of projectiles which is the best thing about 300BLK.
It also says the performance is very similar to x39 but there is very little in the way of surplus available so you'd be better off just running the easy to find and cheap x39 in my opinion. If you're going to go through all the trouble to make brass I think you'd be better off going 300BLK and having a thousand different options for projectiles compared to how ever many there are for .311 (not many).
 
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make brass I think you'd be better off going 300BLK and having a thousand different options for projectiles compared to how ever many there are for .311 (not many).
I would suggest 30 AR over 300blk if you are making brass anyways. (can use either 284 win or 450 bushmaster brass)
 
So, you're available for work 24 hrs. a day, 365 days a year? I find that very hard to believe.

It's ok to say that reloading isn't your cup of tea but to say your downtime is costing you a $100 is a bit of a stretch.
2 full time jobs and other hobbies that actually make me money. Also have family and vacations to think about. shooting and reloading in a negative no matter how you cut it
 
I would suggest 30 AR over 300blk if you are making brass anyways. (can use either 284 win or 450 bushmaster brass)

That 30AR is looking pretty good the more I look at it. If I could get a 450Bush bolt straight from Bushmaster I'd prob give it a try in the ACR. Even my 6.8SPC bolt makes me nervous after opening it up to accept the case. I worry it will be weakened enough it may fail after a couple thousand rounds, I'd like one from the factory with proper hardening done after it's made.
 
So much negativity guys you're liable to make a real shooter cry.;)

Seriously keep up the educational and entertaining posts.

Cheers D

I've been on here a long time and some days I just get sick of the same stupid questions over and over, the nit-picking of the dumbest crap, people expecting every black rifle to shoot sub moa just because it costs over $1000 and then using the fact that it doesn't as a reason they won't buy it even though it's just that they can't afford it, and the arguing just for the sake of arguing.

A real shooter?
I don't know about Brian but I go through thousands of rounds a year, I have to reload or I'd go broke feeding my rifles.
 
it is not negative, the reality is that it costs a lot of money (shooting/hunting)

Discussing cost without considering a cost-benefit analysis is only looking at half the picture.

You think shooting is expensive? It will seem cheap next to the cost of going completely insane from a meaningless unfulfilled life of knitting circles, trips to pottery barn and the weekly excitement of the farmers market.

Also shooting is cheaper than booze, drugs or whores.

Money spent staying sane in this politically correct, morale sapping existence of being nice and following the rules is money well spent.
 
Discussing cost without considering a cost-benefit analysis is only looking at half the picture.

You think shooting is expensive? It will seem cheap next to the cost of going completely insane from a meaningless unfulfilled life of knitting circles, trips to pottery barn and the weekly excitement of the farmers market.

Also shooting is cheaper than booze, drugs or whores.

Money spent staying sane in this politically correct, morale sapping existence of being nice and following the rules is money well spent.
you don't do all those things plus more and shoot?
 
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