So you think that natives shood not Own land or have the same right to limit how go's on ther land the sign says bandmembers only that means only ther ban members on that beach and is close to all other Natives As well
Alberta ban on spear hunting after American hunter kills black bear
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So you think that natives shood not Own land or have the same right to limit how go's on ther land the sign says bandmembers only that means only ther ban members on that beach and is close to all other Natives As well
My ban had to restrict access to band members only at the graveyard do to peaple stealing at one pont the grave markers wear disappearing like crazy
Plus the Tour companies started making are cemetery a tourist attraction
Now that it is limited to Bandmembers we have no more theft and don't have tourist bus full of tourist climbing over graves
I don't disagree with your example carverk, I think what he is saying is imagine you own beach front. You put a sign up restricting access to only one ethnic group. If Native wish to do this on their land, I think they should be able to. By the same token, if any other ethnic group wishes to do this on their land, they should be able to as well, shouldn't they?
That isn't what happens though, is it.
It's all about optics. How about instead of a sign that says 'Natives only', make it say 'Authorized persons only'. This should keep out honest people, and trespassers can be dealt with accordingly.
As soon as you make it about race, or excluding ethnicity, you become the racist.
Make it about people, all people, not just one group. Authorized, and not.
That isn't what happens though, is it.
It's all about optics. How about instead of a sign that says 'Natives only', make it say 'Authorized persons only'. This should keep out honest people, and trespassers can be dealt with accordingly.
As soon as you make it about race, or excluding ethnicity, you become the racist.
Make it about people, all people, not just one group. Authorized, and not.
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Of course they do. That is an important part of our hunting heritage.
Is it realy that offensive to white people seeing a sign saying BAND MEMBERS ONLY on privet property
The sign don't say natives only or it would be racist
but the fact the ban has Restricted axis to it own property for it own members is not racist
Evan other Natives from other bands would not be allowed on ther beach
I don't know how this became a native thing it has nothing to do with a guy killing a bear with a spear .
I like spear hunting it hard and a test of skill nothing more thrilling to get up within 30feet and attempt to harvest a deer or bear with out any mechanical assistance sum wild emotions run through your head excitement , happiness ,sadness , stressed-out ,and determination all at the same time
you're so close you can help but fully realize what you are about to do
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Saying "Band Members Only" is akin to saying "Private Property." There is nothing racist about that... if you want to draw a parallel then the sign would read "Smith family members only..." Because, of course, the Smiths own the land.
I've don't always see eye to eye with you on things carverk; but I get it on this one, it's not unlike family members only...insert an all cousins joke here l believe ( I know...only insiders joke...back off Moonias ).
Let them use a spear, condemn him for acting like an Ass...not for spear hunting
Thank you tokguy
I did get carried away on a post A while back but it was out of frustration and wasn't till I was thoroughly insulted that I started lashing out
its hard not to not being the bad guy wen your constantly being told how evil your Family is
Better let your BCWF reps know you don't support it. Like I said, it's been on the government radar for some time.
Agree. Now is the time to be proactive, not reactive.
I to think it's a silly law my salf we are talking such a small Group of Hunter I am probly the only native using a spear and bet less then a dozen non native hunters
I only read the first page and Hoyt sums it up perfectly. I'd be too chicken to go up against a bear without some form of lead being launched. Hat's off to the spear hunter, well done!
Exactly. It's enacting laws to prohibit a problem that doesn't exist.
But, now the internet, ninja, SJW's won't be all butt hurt and have to run off to their therapist or safe place; instead they can jump up, high five each other, and believe that they have actually made some kind of real difference in the world (self-delusional).
The Internet has made most people into herd animals and it only takes 5% to Control a herd and every one will follow the 5% aimlessly
The herd of non-hunter is larger then the herd of Hunter and the small group of spear hunters makes us a easy target
Every one shood look up and research HERD MENTALTY it will realy open your eyes
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So, having read the responses in here and put some thought into it and why the video bothers me, I come up with a couple of things....
1- I was never against spear hunting or critical of the hunt and kill, no issue there.....
2- I was critical of the hunter's reacting to the kill, and still am to an extent. Having read Hoytcanon's post in regards to his bear hunter's reaction gave me pause.... I remember one time where I was less "respectful" in my reaction than normal, my first grouse of all things..... Where I started hunting, grouse were slim and I was still learning with dad..... I likely put 100 km on my cheap kodiak workboots carrying my Cooey 84 before I was successful (missed a bunch too)...... I do remember a less than somber reactin at the time...... It doesn't compare to this guy's reaction, but neither does the accomplishment level..... Or work involved.....
3- Here is my issue with this whole thing...... I am not about appeasing antis, but I do feel that, as hunters, we need to be stewards for our pastime..... While his overreaction may have been warranted, he didn't need to post it on social media..... It was just fuel for the fire IMOP...... its hard for hunters to put forward the "stewards of nature / conservationist" argument then put on a display like that..... It's tantamount to a farmer putting up a video of him slaughtering a veal calf after putting all of the time and money into it and jumping up and down in the video about how much the fair would fetch at market......
1- I was never against spear hunting or critical of the hunt and kill, no issue there.....
2- I was critical of the hunter's reacting to the kill, and still am to an extent. Having read Hoytcanon's post in regards to his bear hunter's reaction gave me pause.... I remember one time where I was less "respectful" in my reaction than normal, my first grouse of all things..... Where I started hunting, grouse were slim and I was still learning with dad..... I likely put 100 km on my cheap kodiak workboots carrying my Cooey 84 before I was successful (missed a bunch too)...... I do remember a less than somber reactin at the time...... It doesn't compare to this guy's reaction, but neither does the accomplishment level..... Or work involved.....
3- Here is my issue with this whole thing...... I am not about appeasing antis, but I do feel that, as hunters, we need to be stewards for our pastime..... While his overreaction may have been warranted, he didn't need to post it on social media..... It was just fuel for the fire IMOP...... its hard for hunters to put forward the "stewards of nature / conservationist" argument then put on a display like that..... It's tantamount to a farmer putting up a video of him slaughtering a veal calf after putting all of the time and money into it and jumping up and down in the video about how much the fair would fetch at market......
But slaughter never brings joy to people like fishing and hunting. No one goes around bragging about how many chicken he strangled in a day.
I agree... Perhaps a poor example....... and I don't equate hunting to slaughtering farm animals..... Have done both...
That being said, I think he could have posted something better edited to YouTube ........ He made a great accomplishment, no doubt, but his respect for the bear seemed to lack, although I won't judge based on my thoughts...... He may have needed time to reflect after all of that hard work.... I certainly couldn't do what he did......
They lament that under armour dropped them..... (Or her)..... But I can understand why they did.....
