all I want for X-mas is a SKS

kodiakjack said:
The sks is a great rifle... but this was not a great way to use it. And just in my opinion, not an ethical way to use it. I would never try a long shot on a deer without knowing with some level of certainty where my bullet was going to go.

What was your hold over? Was there a cross wind? Drop at that distance is over 2 feet! And a 10mph xwind will drift it a foot and a half! Not to mention that the bullets energy is down to 600ftlbs... sufficient, but accuracy becomes even more important.

I'm frankly relieved that all five shots missed. You and your sks are a wounded animal waiting to happen. Not cool.
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:agree:
 
Cheapest centre fire and centre fire round out there! Even at the increase in firearm and ammo these last couple years. A previous dealer here use to sell the rifle for $75 if you bought a case of ammo. Ammo was $200-250 couple years back. Shoot it as is and forgo all the mall ninja crap! It will not shoot much better than it does as is when you get it. Besides, if you can't learn to shoot with irons, your not really learning to shoot.
 
An AK47 can kill at man at 300 m no problem so and SKS (with appropriate ammo like Hornady SST's) can kill a deer at 300 m.

So can an SKS do it ? Yes. Can most guys who own an SKS do it ? NO. ... but some of us can.

You have to work really hard for that skill set. Philhut, you CLEARLY did nothing of the sort. Unethical indeed.

Also, 100 yard zero is not very effective on an SKS. Do some research on it, then it the range to see why.
 
I have a sks and have shot it at 300 yards at the ORA and trust me it is not a 300 yard deer gun and shooting at a deer at 300 and kiling a deer would be a 1 out of 5 chance (PLAN STUPID) bush gun 150 yard max. its ok .
 
SKS group sizes at 300 yards are too large for ethical hunting. 22LR can kill a man at 300 yards, this does not make it the ideal long range large game round.
You can get a used bolt gun for the price of an SKS which would be more suitable for such activities.
 
kodiakjack said:
Great bush gun.

Now for ammo... you can get a crate of corrosive for what works out to about 15 cents a round, or a box of soft points for closer to a buck fifty per round. I've heard it rumored that the soft points can have some feeding issues, being more round nosed than the FMJ the rifle was designed for... but rumors are, well, rumors. Either way, I decided to go the "Mexican match" route and just pulled a bunch of the surplus FMJs, weighed and averaged the powder back into the cases, and seated some poly tipped hornady SSTs back in the cases. No need to crimp, as the unfired steel cases are very tight. Bingo bango. Rounds with better flight and terminal ballistics than the soft points, at less than a third of the cost, and something you can do without reloading equipment, aside from a pulling hammer and a powder scale.
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how dangerous would this process be? I'm not comfortable this kind of stuff but I'd like to try it.
I'm not into reloading yet, but I think it's going to happen sooner or later
 
Juster said:
SKS group sizes at 300 yards are too large for ethical hunting. 22LR can kill a man at 300 yards, this does not make it the ideal long range large game round.
You can get a used bolt gun for the price of an SKS which would be more suitable for such activities.
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I always thought you can't do too much with a 22LR except for gophers and rabbit.
 
rkr said:
I always thought you can't do too much with a 22LR except for gophers and rabbit.
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Robert Kennedy would agree. Rarely does a day go by when I don't see him on TV saying that 22LR can't kill people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle

Edit: 16 layers of denim and 4" of partially frozen meat at 300 yards:


So, you can kill deer at 300 yards with 22LR, but you are more likely to miss or wound the unfortunate critturs.
 
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rkr said:
how dangerous would this process be? I'm not comfortable this kind of stuff but I'd like to try it.
I'm not into reloading yet, but I think it's going to happen sooner or later
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Well I didn't die... lol

It was actually the gateway though that got me into reloading. Quite simple and a confidence builder for getting into "real" reloading. You're not playing with powder volumes, just averaging things out, so pretty hard to blow yourself up.
 
Juster said:
Robert Kennedy would agree. Rarely does a day go by when I don't see him on TV saying that 22LR can't kill people.


Edit: 16 layers of denim and 4" of partially frozen meat at 300 yards:

So, you can kill deer at 300 yards with 22LR, but you are more likely to miss or wound the unfortunate critturs.
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for some reason I always looked down on 2LR as a toy gun but not anymore after I watched the video.
imagine what you can do at 50 yards
 
rkr said:
for some reason I always looked down on 2LR as a toy gun but not anymore after I watched the video.
imagine what you can do at 50 yards
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I agree. I remember being told in the Army "It's only a 22, but if it hits you in the head, you're dead". So yes, it isn't as dangerous as 308 Win, but it isn't safe either.

Anyhoo, you owe the deer at 300 yards a bit more accuracy than an SKS.
 
Never wanted one for the longest time. Just never been a plinker, I like long distance accuracy. Cabelas had them on sale last week and I couldn't help myself. Had the extra cash so I went down to take a look.
Looked at a couple of pretty beat up ones but managed to find one in not too bad of shape. Bought a 1950 Tula with some decent furniture. The finish is garbage but the wood is in good shape, one day i will refinish.
Got it home and started the arduous task of cosmoline removal, as I was cleaning I began to notice that I had found a jewel. Most of the serials match, bluing is mint, bore is pristine! Aside for a little wear on the bolt this sks
Has to be the nicest I have ever seen.
I guess working at Cabelas as a verifier for 4 years kind of biased me against them. I literally have inspected hundreds upon hundreds of sks's and have never seen one in this good of shape.
My advise to you is go to the store and personally pick one out.
You won't win any shooting contests but, they are fun as hell to shoot and cheap!

:cheers::cheers:
 
Buy 2 and a crate of ammo for each

Enjoy !

Worst case you wont like it and you just sell it, it will go fast dont worry.

Also, skip the tacticool, waste of change on these guns
 
For 200 bucks they are tough to beat. I'm teaching my 11 year old with one. I figure if shtf he has experience with it and can put meat in the freezer.
And spam cans of ammo are a nice touch.
 
madashell said:
An AK47 can kill at man at 300 m no problem so and SKS (with appropriate ammo like Hornady SST's) can kill a deer at 300 m.

So can an SKS do it ? Yes. Can most guys who own an SKS do it ? NO. ... but some of us can.

You have to work really hard for that skill set. Philhut, you CLEARLY did nothing of the sort. Unethical indeed.

Also, 100 yard zero is not very effective on an SKS. Do some research on it, then it the range to see why.
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Rifle dynamics out of Vegas builds new ak's. With premium ammo they claim an ak-47 with 7.62x39 can be combat effective at 700 yards.
I haven't tested it so I cannot confirm however they build them,I strict classes with them and a few of their instructors are former military and they claim the Taliban would use them with open sights and can make consistent hits if they could see you.
The farthests I've hit a milk jug with mine is 300 meters with spam cans Chinese surplus.
Got a 4x scope on it. Mounted on the dust cover.
Anyways they claim 700 yards and claim combat effective.
I don't know how effective though. Maybe 100 pounds of energy left. I'd assume it's tumbling by then.
Check out YouTube. Jim fuller. Rifle dynamics.
 
Ryefulman said:
Rifle dynamics out of Vegas builds new ak's. With premium ammo they claim an ak-47 with 7.62x39 can be combat effective at 700 yards.
I haven't tested it so I cannot confirm however they build them,I strict classes with them and a few of their instructors are former military and they claim the Taliban would use them with open sights and can make consistent hits if they could see you.
The farthests I've hit a milk jug with mine is 300 meters with spam cans Chinese surplus.
Got a 4x scope on it. Mounted on the dust cover.
Anyways they claim 700 yards and claim combat effective.
I don't know how effective though. Maybe 100 pounds of energy left. I'd assume it's tumbling by then.
Check out YouTube. Jim fuller. Rifle dynamics.
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200ftlbs actually (not that it matters)

But 30 FEET of drop at 700 yards. Not to mention the winds effect. Or the 1.6 seconds it takes to get there and how far your target has moved in that time.

I guess "combat effective" is a relative term. Effective at engaging unarmed combatants in a styrofoam boat 700 yards out in rough seas.
 
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