All-New: Type 81M

MosinMan13 said:
So generally speaking I’ve seldom seen a single person agree with a single thing you’ve said, generally speaking you are arguing with everybody around you on this thread, when you’re not being outright spanked across multiple pages over marksmanship concepts you clearly didn’t understand.

When you’re the only one crying wolf, you ought to at least consider maybe you’re the problem? I haven’t seen you post any evidence you have or have had one of these rifles, or had any personal dealings with TI on any basis other than your alleged purchase.

I’ve owned one of each other than the SR, and I have never had a malfunction, a defect, a QC issue or any degree out of spec, nor any friends I have who’ve also owned variations. Of the few I’ve seen come back with real issues, proven issues or missing parts, TI has immediately rectified the situation and made amends.

I’m not paid by, sponsored by, or trying to gain brownie points with TI, I’m in line patiently waiting again just like everyone else.

I’ve seen every evidence to suggest this is a good rifle and TI is a great vendor to deal with, bringing us a great product at a more than reasonable price in todays economy.

I’ve seen absolutely zero evidence that you can substantiate your wild claims with anything but hearsay and blind rage.

So who’s the sucker?
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wow bro i'm hurt.
there are a lot of people agreeing with me you just don't like to read those posts. i been on this post since the beginning and i have seen a lot of issues from missing magazine catches, bent rifles and more bent rifles. bent stocks, scratched grips bent folders, scratches or cracks in trunnion etc. a lot of issues you just don't have a good memory to remember all and do a statistic. and i don't care if anyone doesn't agree with me i can see with my own eyes. i'm an adult i can handle lol
i'm not a looser to brag online about what i have.
sure you are trying to score brownie points, you want to be part of the group not comfortable enough to stand on your own two feet. "Flocking"
it is not a good rifle it is cheaply manufactured bent and all kinds of issues. you probably don't own good firearms only cheap junk and don't know any better.
you are.
 
dmackd said:
wow bro i'm hurt.
there are a lot of people agreeing with me you just don't like to read those posts. i been on this post since the beginning and i have seen a lot of issues from missing magazine catches, bent rifles and more bent rifles. bent stocks, scratched grips bent folders, scratches or cracks in trunnion etc. a lot of issues you just don't have a good memory to remember all and do a statistic. and i don't care if anyone doesn't agree with me i can see with my own eyes. i'm an adult i can handle lol
i'm not a looser to brag online about what i have.
sure you are trying to score brownie points, you want to be part of the group not comfortable enough to stand on your own two feet. "Flocking"
it is not a good rifle it is cheaply manufactured bent and all kinds of issues. you probably don't own good firearms only cheap junk and don't know any better.
you are.
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So if it’s such garbage why are you here? Why buy one?
 
MosinMan13 said:
So if it’s such garbage why are you here? Why buy one?
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to add to my collection lol
I'm not going to fire it much at all just a few rounds, can't add a bent rifle to a collection it will have zero value.
unlike some who think it will be their shtf rifle and they need it to go bang that's it. lol
 
dmackd said:
to add to my collection lol
I'm not going to fire it much at all just a few rounds, can't add a bent rifle to a collection it will have zero value.
unlike some who think it will be their shtf rifle and they need it to go bang that's it. lol
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Right. You’re either the worlds greatest internet troll or the worst.
 
Emshey said:
2pGuvxS


Link to possible cracked trunnion

https://flic.kr/p/2pGuvxS
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If its similar to the AK, that may be the feed ramp rivet thats cracked.
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Here is the feed ramp off an AK, after the rivet is pressed its ground flush with the feed ramp
 
Murray 3-D said:
I did some digging into this and all of my Type 81s have this. On my SR it has been left relatively clean indicating that its some kind of large pin or lug thats been blended in with a tool. On my Blonde side folder and LMG the pin was blended more aggressively thus kindov splawling it into this concerning looking patch. Your probably the same owner from reddit but ill post here anyways to make others aware.

Type 81 SR trunnion
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This pic here is a great example of the rivet that holds the feed ramp on the type 81.

It is very similar to the AK here
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dmackd said:
i have seen a lot of issues from missing magazine catches, bent rifles and more bent rifles. bent stocks, scratched grips bent folders, scratches or cracks in trunnion etc.
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Out of the thousands sold, hasn't there only been 2 that have been reported (to us) that they are missing the mag catch? And the scratch/crack in the trunion is most likely a cracked feed ramp rivet (still bad and shouldn't have left the factory). Also, I don't think there has been any bent rifles or barrels (that I recall) only rifles with misaligned trunions or canted sights that will function perfectly fine
 
JasonGTA said:
Out of the thousands sold, hasn't there only been 2 that have been reported (to us) that they are missing the mag catch? And the scratch/crack in the trunion is most likely a cracked feed ramp rivet. Also, I don't think there has been any bent rifles or barrels (that I recall) only rifles with misaligned trunions or canted sights that will function perfectly fine
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well you came across as a smart guy at first but now im not so sure. "bent rifles" is a term but yes even worse the actual issue misaligned holes that cause the rifles to be crooked. i said this originally but the post got deleted. i also mentioned they should use jigs to make sure they lign up.

1. how do you know there were thousands sold? order numbers don't mean rifles sold. TI has other products not only under folders lol
2. out of the "thousands sold" are all of those people on here reporting to you the issues? is everyone that bought a rifle on here? there are now 2449 posts probably by the same 100 folks. moderators can probably tell you exactly how many contributors.
3. are you TI? do you knowhow many emails they receive with complains?
4, if out of 100 folks maybe even less, there have been 10 reports of issues that's a lot of issues.

Probably makes no sense that's ok. boom stick go bang
 
dmackd said:
well you came across as a smart guy at first but now im not so sure. "bent rifles" is a term but yes even worse the actual issue misaligned holes that cause the rifles to be crooked. i said this originally but the post got deleted. i also mentioned they should use jigs to make sure they lign up.

1. how do you know there were thousands sold? order numbers don't mean rifles sold. TI has other products not only under folders lol
2. out of the "thousands sold" are all of those people on here reporting to you the issues? is everyone that bought a rifle on here? there are now 2449 posts probably by the same 100 folks. moderators can probably tell you exactly how many contributors.
3. are you TI? do you knowhow many emails they receive with complains?
4, if out of 100 folks maybe even less, there have been 10 reports of issues that's a lot of issues.

Probably makes no sense that's ok. boom stick go bang
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I partly agree with you. Out of all type 81, the least popular models, LMG and SR, are actually the ones with the highest quality since they were manufactured in a different location. There seems to be a cult amongst the regular type 81 rifle owners. I am not sure why that is, the quality is what I would call, typical Chinese. SKS, especially the Russian ones, are of much higher quality, but they lack the AK look.

Not sure why you are arguing so much, they are "only 1,200" and there isn't much out there to compare. The CZ and VZ rifles are banned, for no apparent logical reason. When the type 81 came out in 2018 or so, the 1st choice was the VZ58 - and people were willing to pay $500 more for that one than for the type 81, which was a hard sale at the time. I would bet that if the VZ would still be available, in both 556 and 7.62x39 and different barrel length, the type 81 would be a very hard sale.
 
Oh yes, and a lot of aftermarket parts are available for the CZ and VZ, really a joke that TI never really cared about his customers in that department.
 
dmackd said:
well you came across as a smart guy at first but now im not so sure. "bent rifles" is a term but yes even worse the actual issue misaligned holes that cause the rifles to be crooked. i said this originally but the post got deleted. i also mentioned they should use jigs to make sure they lign up.

1. how do you know there were thousands sold? order numbers don't mean rifles sold. TI has other products not only under folders lol
2. out of the "thousands sold" are all of those people on here reporting to you the issues? is everyone that bought a rifle on here? there are now 2449 posts probably by the same 100 folks. moderators can probably tell you exactly how many contributors.
3. are you TI? do you knowhow many emails they receive with complains?
4, if out of 100 folks maybe even less, there have been 10 reports of issues that's a lot of issues.

Probably makes no sense that's ok. boom stick go bang
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TI has said they do use jigs at the factory now because they requested it.

I'll answer your questions with what I have read from what TI has posted, they do not post actual numbers for security reasons so its all just a guesstimate.


1. how do you know there were thousands sold? order numbers don't mean rifles sold. TI has other products not only under folders lol
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They received orders in the 4 digits on 1 day alone. They brought in as many 81m models as they did SE and SA models combined. And they have brought in 5 digits of all Types of T81s into Canada. Going off these numbers I'd say they most likely sold a few thousand 81Ms so far.

2. out of the "thousands sold" are all of those people on here reporting to you the issues? is everyone that bought a rifle on here? there are now 2449 posts probably by the same 100 folks. moderators can probably tell you exactly how many contributors.
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Of course not, I even mention that I am going off whats been reported to us. Have all these people been reporting the issues on here to you? Is this why you keep bringing these issues up? I am just going off the evidence we have available to us.

3. are you TI? do you knowhow many emails they receive with complains?
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No, and see last sentence above.

4, if out of 100 folks maybe even less, there have been 10 reports of issues that's a lot of issues.
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I would agree, if it was true.

Boom stick go bang
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Perfect quote to describe the reliability of the Type 81.
 
Emshey said:
Nice find! So I guess the question is just if the crack is even a cornern
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Maybe, who knows how its cracked. Could pop off or it could be fine. I wouldn't want it on mine and would have TI warranty it for me lol.

If it wasnt under warranty I would use it like normal and if it ever had an issue I would replace the rivet myself. It shouldn't be too difficult
 
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fritzhanzel said:
I partly agree with you. Out of all type 81, the least popular models, LMG and SR, are actually the ones with the highest quality since they were manufactured in a different location. There seems to be a cult amongst the regular type 81 rifle owners. I am not sure why that is, the quality is what I would call, typical Chinese. SKS, especially the Russian ones, are of much higher quality, but they lack the AK look.

Not sure why you are arguing so much, they are "only 1,200" and there isn't much out there to compare. The CZ and VZ rifles are banned, for no apparent logical reason. When the type 81 came out in 2018 or so, the 1st choice was the VZ58 - and people were willing to pay $500 more for that one than for the type 81, which was a hard sale at the time. I would bet that if the VZ would still be available, in both 556 and 7.62x39 and different barrel length, the type 81 would be a very hard sale.
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I think I prefer the Type 81 over the VZ 58, the safety on the t81 is an awful design though. Who ever thought to put a 180 degree safety on it should be slapped on the wrist with a ruler
 
JasonGTA said:
I think I prefer the Type 81 over the VZ 58, the safety on the t81 is an awful design though. Who ever thought to put a 180 degree safety on it should be slapped on the wrist with a ruler
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Up until May 2020 when the VZ got banned, most people who used both disagreed with you.
 
fritzhanzel said:
Up until May 2020 when the VZ got banned, most people who used both disagreed with you.
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I'm glad then, but personally I don't like the Type 81 safety. Or the VZ58 one, I have used and owned both. Guess I'm picky :p

Also, pretty sure its 180 degrees because the full auto position is in the middle (same on AK) and they were too lazy to change the semi position just for our small production runs
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