All-New: Type 81M

Terp312 said:
Did you read this thread at all?
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Yup, that’s why I said what I did. The context of my post is after TI explaining/defending themselves as well as others defending their “business decisions”. Look back a couple pages.

Terp312 said:
There are clearly enough people on here who are prepared to be abused and taken financial advantage of, and continue to excuse unethical business practices. With such loyal following of suckups TI doesn't have to offer good customer service, or quality control, or anything for that matter. They know that their fan base will buy up whatever stock they have one way or another, and that includes scalpers. Why bother processing 10 different orders to 10 different guys when you can cut down a bunch of admin process and sell 10-20 units to a single purchaser to flip on GP?
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Exactly. 100%. The reason the community tolerates their business style is because they are the only people selling what we want. It’s “better” for TI to sell 10 at a time to scalpers for the instant high profit, and the instant reduction of supply. They also don’t have to deal with warranty from non-original purchasers. That’s brilliant!…if all you care about is money. Many companies with a specialty product actually limit purchase quantity at release. TI does not care about the ethics of this.
 
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Just like to point out that TI replied to this - and deleted it - stating that the guy with the bent barrel ( who couldn’t exchange his fixed stock for a “straight” fixed stock because TI didn’t keep any for warranty) has an aesthetic issue that does not affect function. Really? Is cycling properly the only function that matters?

Remember, they sell you a gun where youre upsold to buy an optic mount. But you cannot adjust your shots for elevation/distance after zeroing because of the “bend”. That is very much a functional issue in my mind.
 
Incendiary said:
Just like to point out that TI replied to this - and deleted it - stating that the guy with the bent barrel ( who couldn’t exchange his fixed stock for a “straight” fixed stock because TI didn’t keep any for warranty) has an aesthetic issue that does not affect function. Really? Is cycling properly the only function that matters?

Remember, they sell you a gun where youre upsold to buy an optic mount. But you cannot adjust your shots for elevation/distance after zeroing because of the “bend”. That is very much a functional issue in my mind.
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Good you pointed that out, I wondered where their reply went
 
I contacted TI about the canted stock issue present on my fixed stock rifle. TI responded , acknowledged the issue and offered to exchange it with a folder or refund my money (they are sold out of fixed stocks). Since the rest of the rifle is straight, I opted to keep it as I have a zhukov stock and sigmaco adaptor sitting on my shelf. Having said that, they did step up to the plate and offer to resolve the issue.
 
Incendiary said:
Just like to point out that TI replied to this - and deleted it - stating that the guy with the bent barrel ( who couldn’t exchange his fixed stock for a “straight” fixed stock because TI didn’t keep any for warranty) has an aesthetic issue that does not affect function. Really? Is cycling properly the only function that matters?

Remember, they sell you a gun where youre upsold to buy an optic mount. But you cannot adjust your shots for elevation/distance after zeroing because of the “bend”. That is very much a functional issue in my mind.
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TI responded to me??

Haha if the barrel is bent beyond 4mm it definitely affects the function like you said. I fully had plans to mount optics on this rifle and now I won't be able to without ####ing around a bunch.

Clearly these guys have never built anything with their hands before because aesthetics are often very important when it comes to function.
 
Tactical Imports said:
It was listed in product description, several week potential for delay :)
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I hear you responded to me saying that a barrel deviated beyond 4mm(which is out of spec and is eligible for a replacement according to YOU) isn't a problem.
What happened to that response?
Your company has openly admitted multiple times that bends beyond 4mm are a problem and have offered replacements in the past. Now you suddenly claim its not an issue? You knew this sort of thing was a possibility and you chose not to keep anything back for warranty/replacement issues and instead of admitting the company made a mistake you're attempting to shift blame and change claims.
 
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Buttercastle said:
TI responded to me??
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They didn’t quote you in the reply but said something to the effect of the customer being offered a refund or an UF (since they didn’t keep any fixed models for warranty). And then they said that all of it was over a cosmetic issue that “doesn’t affect function”.

Buttercastle said:
I hear you responded to me saying that a barrel deviated beyond 4mm(which is out of spec and is eligible for a replacement according to YOU) isn't a problem.
What happened to that response?
Your company has openly admitted multiple times that bends beyond 4mm are a problem and have offered replacements in the past.
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I think they would have replaced yours except for not having any left (poor planning)…I agree that the “wow” part of the statement is saying that a bent gun is a cosmetic issue that doesn’t affect function... As they are simultaneously promoting their own optic mounts for the gun. Because you know, being able to aim is purely cosmetic. Probably why they deleted the post.
 
Just got the notice, delivery expected tomorrow (to Ontario). Woo hoo!

Order # 289** (UF Type 81, spare mag, slant compensator, sling)
Order # 291** (Rail screws)

both shipped in the same package from AB, package made in CPs system on 7 April.
 
Jay said:
Now THAT sucks!

Maybe the postie left it in the back of the delivery truck and didn't drop it off at the local depot for you to pick up... (My guess is they are NOT allowed to do that? Can anyone confirm?)

OR, the postie at your depot hadn't scanned the package in yet AND IT'S IN THE BACK ROOM because they are too damn lazy!!!

I'd call & ask for them to look for it in the pile...
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Not sure what happened. I picked it up today though and gave it a quick look over for now. Looks good so far!
 
Terp312 said:
Did you read this thread at all? There are clearly enough people on here who are prepared to be abused and taken financial advantage of, and continue to excuse unethical business practices. With such loyal following of suckups TI doesn't have to offer good customer service, or quality control, or anything for that matter. They know that their fan base will buy up whatever stock they have one way or another, and that includes scalpers. Why bother processing 10 different orders to 10 different guys when you can cut down a bunch of admin process and sell 10-20 units to a single purchaser to flip on GP?
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You whine like a woman, I wish you and your band of whiners would go find another hobby; maybe you guys could form some type of support group, that way you could tell your sad stories to someone who actually cares.

Just Saying

Terp312 said:
With such loyal following of suckups TI doesn't have to offer good customer service, or quality control, or anything for that matter. They know that their fan base will buy up whatever stock they have one way or another,
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Since when is it ok to come on here and personally attack people.I thought this was an adult sight with like minded individuals.Josey you make me sick.I started collecting and so on over 40 years ago.Up until now everyone I have met in this hobby are gentlemen and respecful.
 
Dave.S said:
Since when is it ok to come on here and personally attack people.I thought this was an adult sight with like minded individuals.Josey you make me sick.I started collecting and so on over 40 years ago.Up until now everyone I have met in this hobby are gentlemen and respecful.
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I guess you missed the part where he openly attacked people who are happy with their rifles? You get what you give; and just so there is no misunderstanding I could care less what you think.



BTW Old Timer Just in case you missed the respectful and gentleman-like post you can read the quote below

Terp312 said:
With such loyal following of suckups TI doesn't have to offer good customer service, or quality control, or anything for that matter. They know that their fan base will buy up whatever stock they have one way or another,
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If you start taking random shots at members expect to get it back.
 
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Slant comp came in today. Took about 3 weeks from the time my rifle showed up until now but whatever. It was worth the wait. The rifle looks awesome with it. Have to wait until the weekend to see if it actually effects recoil the way it's supposed to.
 
Hello all. I just received my underfolder, but i'm not sure if there's an issue with it.

The charging handle doesn't pull all the way back. See the picture here : **Image and video linking functions will be enabled after you have contributed more to the forum**

https://imgur.com/a/ZPX0U7z

From videos I see, it seems to go back more. Any ideas?
 
tigersyle said:
Hello all. I just received my underfolder, but i'm not sure if there's an issue with it.

The charging handle doesn't pull all the way back. See the picture here : **Image and video linking functions will be enabled after you have contributed more to the forum**

https://imgur.com/a/ZPX0U7z

From videos I see, it seems to go back more. Any ideas?
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Is your safety on? They won't #### back fully if on safe, atleast mine didn't.
 
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