And people say 10/22 are not accurate.

I have had a sporter I bought new around early 80,s.Over the years I've shot the s hit out of it,always thought it was pretty accurate. What a joke I just bought a new Savage mark ii bv and there is really no comparison.I was happy if I could hit a clay at 100yds with about 3 shots. With the savage I can hit Ritz crackers 2 out of 3 times at 100yds. I tried the 50 yds challenge and while not quite there I did have 4 group s under .5" on one piece of paper. BTW I have exactly $339 into the savage. I almost can't shoot the old ruger anymore. No its not FS I'll hand it down too one of my boys.
 
If 10/22's are so accurate, then why are 25+ rd. clips so popular?:confused:

Not sure what Ruger you've seen or used but none that I know of take a clip. Mine feed from a magazine, and yes, 25 round magazines are nice as it keeps reloading to a minimum and shooting to a maximum. Gophers don't wait for a reload, and I like to take shots that push my limits so misses do happen.

TW25B
 
I've always found the 10-22's to be hit and miss. Some shoot great out of the box and others don't. I'd bet that the disappointed owners are more vocal in general. Fit and finish isn't the same as what it used to be, which is a shame since they're so much more expensive now. The nice thing that I've always liked about the 10-22 was that, for a semi auto, it lent itself to 'easy' accurizing and tuning. Bedding the barrel channel and floating the action is easy, trigger jobs and spring changes are easy, bolt/swap parts readily available, dimensioning the bolt face and shortening the chamber, etc... Good files, micrometer and care/attention is really all it takes.

It's a solid platform that can be worked on, if necessary, to be a real tack driver. And...it's a great gun to start new shooters out on.
 
50 yards is a fair distance of measure for a .22 rifle. Past 50 yards is where wind and other factors pay a bigger role than accuracy.

Well yesterday it was windy and raining. So not the best day to really group. I thought that group was good for the conditions, new sights and never shot in about 8 months. Fire a shot, then unload, walk down see where it hitting. Then walk back ( forgot my spotting scope ) or visi targets. My cooey grouped about a inch but 2"high.

I basically got a whole safe of un zeroed in guns. So what ive been trying to do.
 
Not sure what Ruger you've seen or used but none that I know of take a clip. Mine feed from a magazine, and yes, 25 round magazines are nice as it keeps reloading to a minimum and shooting to a maximum. Gophers don't wait for a reload, and I like to take shots that push my limits so misses do happen.

TW25B

I don't know what you are talking about, my 10/22 clips take 25 bullets.... ;)
 
In the 80s, Ruger actually gave a damn about the quality of their product. Even as much as I dislike the 10/22, I'll admit that the old ones work perfectly well.

Once the aftermarket business took off for the gun, Ruger stopped caring. If people are going to replace the barrel and triggers and internals anyway, why bother put in decent ones? Cut corners and save money while increasing the price; good business decision while only earning the ire from people who aren't interested in bells and whistles or have more brains than money.
 
In the 80s, Ruger actually gave a damn about the quality of their product. Even as much as I dislike the 10/22, I'll admit that the old ones work perfectly well.

Once the aftermarket business took off for the gun, Ruger stopped caring. If people are going to replace the barrel and triggers and internals anyway, why bother put in decent ones? Cut corners and save money while increasing the price; good business decision while only earning the ire from people who aren't interested in bells and whistles or have more brains than money.

This.

I've fired older ones, and unfortunately own a newer one (2012 production). Even calling them the same gun is an injustice to the older 10/22s.
 
10 shots, 20Y. Rem Golden Bullets, My Thumb about 1/2"wide.

Factory Carbine barrel form the 80s. Stock Trigger, M1 Carbine Clone Iron Sights.

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see italics. The pre garbago 10/22 rifles were nice
 
OK, I have a question.. Without a scope, what were you aiming at? I'm not being critical, just curious, the target looks kind of tan camo-like, and I certainly can't see that good at 20 yards, I need about a one-inch black spot to aim for , or at least a line of reference to know where to aim. Maybe my eyes are just getting old... but that's pretty good shooting if that is where you were aiming. Or were you aiming at another point and that's where they grouped?
 
Well yesterday it was windy and raining. So not the best day to really group. I thought that group was good for the conditions, new sights and never shot in about 8 months. Fire a shot, then unload, walk down see where it hitting. Then walk back ( forgot my spotting scope ) or visi targets. My cooey grouped about a inch but 2"high.

I basically got a whole safe of un zeroed in guns. So what ive been trying to do.
It doesn't need to be zeroed in we just want to see groupings.Just aim at the same point and fire 5 rounds at 50 yds using a few different ammo;s as the ammo will vary greatly.If you have any cci mini mags use them they work real good.Junk bulk ammo usually returns lousy groups.
 
OK, I have a question.. Without a scope, what were you aiming at? I'm not being critical, just curious, the target looks kind of tan camo-like, and I certainly can't see that good at 20 yards, I need about a one-inch black spot to aim for , or at least a line of reference to know where to aim. Maybe my eyes are just getting old... but that's pretty good shooting if that is where you were aiming. Or were you aiming at another point and that's where they grouped?

Just center of cardboard. Easier on my eyes then trying to stain to concentrate on a dot or target. Center of blank piece is normally where I aim. I barely ever try for the tightest group.
 
I've always found the 10-22's to be hit and miss. Some shoot great out of the box and others don't. I'd bet that the disappointed owners are more vocal in general. Fit and finish isn't the same as what it used to be, which is a shame since they're so much more expensive now. The nice thing that I've always liked about the 10-22 was that, for a semi auto, it lent itself to 'easy' accurizing and tuning. Bedding the barrel channel and floating the action is easy, trigger jobs and spring changes are easy, bolt/swap parts readily available, dimensioning the bolt face and shortening the chamber, etc... Good files, micrometer and care/attention is really all it takes.

It's a solid platform that can be worked on, if necessary, to be a real tack driver. And...it's a great gun to start new shooters out on.
its all about the ammo. if you can find a .22 load your gun loves it will shoot very well, even stock. most people wont shoot match ammo out of a stock 10/22 though. in an afternoon the ammo would cost you more than the gun itself.

It doesn't need to be zeroed in we just want to see groupings.Just aim at the same point and fire 5 rounds at 50 yds using a few different ammo;s as the ammo will vary greatly.If you have any cci mini mags use them they work real good.Junk bulk ammo usually returns lousy groups.
i find that having the scope zeroed makes it more difficult. usually i will intentionally have the impact point about an inch off the zero in a diagonal direction so i have a constant point of aim which doesnt get destroyed after a couple rounds.

In the 80s, Ruger actually gave a damn about the quality of their product. Even as much as I dislike the 10/22, I'll admit that the old ones work perfectly well.

Once the aftermarket business took off for the gun, Ruger stopped caring. If people are going to replace the barrel and triggers and internals anyway, why bother put in decent ones? Cut corners and save money while increasing the price; good business decision while only earning the ire from people who aren't interested in bells and whistles or have more brains than money.
perfect example of this was the mag release. how many decades did it take them to make the extended ones standard. another issue still is the bolt release. it wouldnt cost ruger anything extra to punch out a different shaped hole for the auto bolt release.
 
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