And people say 10/22 are not accurate.

RobertMcC said:
Well yesterday it was windy and raining. So not the best day to really group. I thought that group was good for the conditions, new sights and never shot in about 8 months. Fire a shot, then unload, walk down see where it hitting. Then walk back ( forgot my spotting scope ) or visi targets. My cooey grouped about a inch but 2"high.

I basically got a whole safe of un zeroed in guns. So what ive been trying to do.
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You don't need to zero you rifle to test groups. If you look at the picture I posted, all of my point of impacts minus the one the rifle is sighted in for is all shifted from the point of aim.

Mini mags shot well out of my 1022, but if I decided to use them, it would require hold overs or an adjustment of the scope.
 
Onagoth said:
average male thumb is about 1" wide at the knuckle...ergo, your 10/22 sucks :D
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There are a couple factors you haven't considered. the OP shot that group with a factory rifle and IRON SIGHTS, no word on whether it was supported or not. The best group you can hope for is one that is equal to the subtension of the front sight post at the specified distance. I'm betting that the front sight post covers about 1" at 20 yards. Let's not discount the fact that he is using bulk ammo that is not of match grade, and last but not least, the merit of whether or not his rifle/group sucks is solely based on his intended purpose for the rifle. If the OP is intending on winning a postage match then yes, he is likely SOL. If the OP however is shooting a rimfire action match or blasting gophers then said performance is on the mark.

TW25B
 
Nice shooting! I picked one up a short while ago. Stainless model with the all wood stock. A few years old but mint condition and two mags. Fun to shoot!
 
This makes me wish I saved the targets for my 452 lux with the stock iron sights. When I sighted it in was in the .5-.75" at 50 yards.Might have to give it a go again.
 
Is a Ruger 10/22 accurate? Well maybe, if you put on a competition bull barrel, have a trigger group upgrade, and better sights or even install optics.
And if it's one with the aluminum receiver, you'd best try to find a steel one to put it on.
There, now you got a shooter! If it were an accurate gun, why would all the upgrades be needed?
 
trebor2880 said:
Is a Ruger 10/22 accurate? Well maybe, if you put on a competition bull barrel, have a trigger group upgrade, and better sights or even install optics.
And if it's one with the aluminum receiver, you'd best try to find a steel one to put it on.
There, now you got a shooter! If it were an accurate gun, why would all the upgrades be needed?
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You've missed the point of this thread. People buy all kinds of aftermarket stuff for all kinds of reasons, a lot of it is useless junk. Some just want "cool" sh*t hanging off their guns, while others are trying to achieve a specific performance or "looks" based goal. Nowhere did anyone in this thread, and nowhere is it written that any specific modification or aftermarket part is necessary to achieve any specific result. The OP posted a very respectable group with a STOCK rifle, which many seem to believe are incapable of producing. I myself have posted my results with a stock rifle at more than standard distances. The Ruger 10/22 is not the horrible shooter so many(who simply can't shoot) claim it to be.

Addressing your other comments. Ruger doesn't make steel receivers for their 10/22's. The "stainless" model refers to the barrel only as the receiver is still aluminum. AMT offered a copy of the 10/22 in a steel receiver and it is a well made rifle that weighs a ton. No one is using bull barrels anymore as they too are not necessary nor are they that great. Carbon fibre tension barrels are more consistent and lighter weight.

TW25B
 
TW25B said:
You've missed the point of this thread. People buy all kinds of aftermarket stuff for all kinds of reasons, a lot of it is useless junk. Some just want "cool" sh*t hanging off their guns, while others are trying to achieve a specific performance or "looks" based goal. Nowhere did anyone in this thread, and nowhere is it written that any specific modification or aftermarket part is necessary to achieve any specific result. The OP posted a very respectable group with a STOCK rifle, which many seem to believe are incapable of producing. I myself have posted my results with a stock rifle at more than standard distances. The Ruger 10/22 is not the horrible shooter so many(who simply can't shoot) claim it to be.

Addressing your other comments. Ruger doesn't make steel receivers for their 10/22's. The "stainless" model refers to the barrel only as the receiver is still aluminum. AMT offered a copy of the 10/22 in a steel receiver and it is a well made rifle that weighs a ton. No one is using bull barrels anymore as they too are not necessary nor are they that great. Carbon fibre tension barrels are more consistent and lighter weight.

TW25B
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Or one can just spare themselves the grief and start off with a Marlin 795.
 
TW25B said:
You've missed the point of this thread. People buy all kinds of aftermarket stuff for all kinds of reasons, a lot of it is useless junk. Some just want "cool" sh*t hanging off their guns, while others are trying to achieve a specific performance or "looks" based goal. Nowhere did anyone in this thread, and nowhere is it written that any specific modification or aftermarket part is necessary to achieve any specific result. The OP posted a very respectable group with a STOCK rifle, which many seem to believe are incapable of producing. I myself have posted my results with a stock rifle at more than standard distances. The Ruger 10/22 is not the horrible shooter so many(who simply can't shoot) claim it to be.

Addressing your other comments. Ruger doesn't make steel receivers for their 10/22's. The "stainless" model refers to the barrel only as the receiver is still aluminum. AMT offered a copy of the 10/22 in a steel receiver and it is a well made rifle that weighs a ton. No one is using bull barrels anymore as they too are not necessary nor are they that great. Carbon fibre tension barrels are more consistent and lighter weight.

TW25B
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Mines a stainless steel receiver and a metal trigger group.
 
762Russian said:
In the 80s, Ruger actually gave a damn about the quality of their product. Even as much as I dislike the 10/22, I'll admit that the old ones work perfectly well.

Once the aftermarket business took off for the gun, Ruger stopped caring. If people are going to replace the barrel and triggers and internals anyway, why bother put in decent ones? Cut corners and save money while increasing the price; good business decision while only earning the ire from people who aren't interested in bells and whistles or have more brains than money.
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this is how I feel....my friend has a 10/22 from the 80's. works perfect

I bought a Ruger 10/22 takedown.....jamomatic, double feeds, stovepipes, firing out of battery, blew up on me, bent bullets, shaved bullets, double shots with single trigger pull. couldn't get through a magazine with no jams.

had to send it back to Ruger service twice. they had a bad batch of bolts out of spec and mine was one of them.......came back, still double shots. sent it back. they had it for about 3 or 4 months. I was getting pissed

finally sent it back and after a brick of ammo it started to run perfect

but what gets me is......when you say something bad about Ruger or the 10/22......you'll get a thousand people coming to their defence saying they have a 10/22 with ten thousand of rounds through it with not even one jam.....

and it's all my fault......I must be using the wrong ammo, or I must be running it dirty, or not holding it right, or over lubing it, or under lubing it, or I'm using crappy magazines, blah, blah blah.

trust me, I tried every type of ammo I could find, cleaned the crap out of it, ran it dry, ran it wet, used factory mags, Butler Creek mags, TI25 mags, took the whole thing apart several times trying to solve the problem

there's a lot of Ruger and 10/22 fans out there and they don't like anyone saying they got a bad one. Ruger has huge fan loyalty and you're gonna get bashed if you say anything bad about them

after all that..... I like my Ruger 10/22 but I'm not happy about Ruger's customer service at all (or lack of customer service)

would I buy another Ruger product? no way
 
There is less and less of an incentive to buy American firearms & getting cross border customer service. It seems there is not much interest in making things right from the American side. It might be a good idea to see what the Gravel agency provides customer support for before committing to buy a blammomatic splendid gun from t'-states.
 
grandmasterP said:
this is how I feel....my friend has a 10/22 from the 80's. works perfect

I bought a Ruger 10/22 takedown.....jamomatic, double feeds, stovepipes, firing out of battery, blew up on me, bent bullets, shaved bullets, double shots with single trigger pull. couldn't get through a magazine with no jams.

had to send it back to Ruger service twice. they had a bad batch of bolts out of spec and mine was one of them.......came back, still double shots. sent it back. they had it for about 3 or 4 months. I was getting pissed

finally sent it back and after a brick of ammo it started to run perfect

but what gets me is......when you say something bad about Ruger or the 10/22......you'll get a thousand people coming to their defence saying they have a 10/22 with ten thousand of rounds through it with not even one jam.....

and it's all my fault......I must be using the wrong ammo, or I must be running it dirty, or not holding it right, or over lubing it, or under lubing it, or I'm using crappy magazines, blah, blah blah.

trust me, I tried every type of ammo I could find, cleaned the crap out of it, ran it dry, ran it wet, used factory mags, Butler Creek mags, TI25 mags, took the whole thing apart several times trying to solve the problem

there's a lot of Ruger and 10/22 fans out there and they don't like anyone saying they got a bad one. Ruger has huge fan loyalty and you're gonna get bashed if you say anything bad about them

after all that..... I like my Ruger 10/22 but I'm not happy about Ruger's customer service at all (or lack of customer service)

would I buy another Ruger product? no way
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Man I had 2-3 other rugers and I never had any issues. Avoid the newer ones or take down and try another 10/22. Last time I had mine out I dumped 700rd thru it and might had 3 stoppages. I'm just running a stainless 10/22 with a buffer, claw extractor, polished inside.

I had a razorback, and that wasn't that reliable and I just wanted to shoot 22 fast and always had luck with rugers. Said I will find a good one and wont sell that.
 
fat tony said:
There is less and less of an incentive to buy American firearms & getting cross border customer service. It seems there is not much interest in making things right from the American side. It might be a good idea to see what the Gravel agency provides customer support for before committing to buy a blammomatic splendid gun from t'-states.
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And it's not limited to Ruger by any means Smith & Wesson have been awful lately even in their higher end guns.
 
It would appear that quality control & customer service is not what it used to be. Not just firearms but manufactured goods in general. We live in a "throw away world" where it is most often cheaper to buy new than repair. Many items are designed to last only for the warranty period.
 
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