Another 9.3X62 bear, now with recovered bullet picture.
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Muzzle velocity was just at 2500 fps, so probably above 2400 at 60 yd impact. The load is actually fairly mild, primers show no flattening at all, the edges still quite rounded, and no measureable case head expansion.
Their website shows these specs: ww.matrixballistics.com/.366-Caliber-rifle-bullets.html
Don't know the ballistic coefficient, however can tell you that sighted in three inches high at 100 yd, they are still a tad high at 200 and about ten inches low at 300, depending on how well I am shooting that day.
Ted
Their website shows these specs: ww.matrixballistics.com/.366-Caliber-rifle-bullets.html
Don't know the ballistic coefficient, however can tell you that sighted in three inches high at 100 yd, they are still a tad high at 200 and about ten inches low at 300, depending on how well I am shooting that day.
Ted
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Thanks for that info. A pastor friend of mine - who is a good hunting buddy too - just got a 9.3x62 Tikka. He was asking me more when I told him about your huge bear. He is not a CGN member but quite a big bore fan. He was quite interested also in your successful griz adventure so I've been filling him in as best I can.
Regards,
Whelen B
Regards,
Whelen B
BigUglyMan
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Did you tell him that only retired pastors can shoot bears like this?
Ted
Explains my dearth of success on bears!
Re15, and magnum primers for positive ignition at minus temps. He'll have to work up the load for his rifle, of course.
You will find that Re 17 is just too slow for this cartridge, even with 300 gr Barnes originals, of which I still have a few if anyone is going buffalo hunting.
Ted
Thanks Ted for the load info. I shoot a lot of ReL15 in my 35s and played with ReL17 a little also. Don't own a 9.3 - YET.
My buddy is working up 9.3x62 loads as we speak with both ReL15 and ReL17. Both are accurate and print to that same spot. He has had good results with ReL15 of course. But he has got slightly more velocity using 4 more grains of ReL17. At present he has a very accurate ReL17 load of which he has 2468MV (corrected average from 2457 instrumental) with Hornady's 286gr bullets. He wrote me this week remarking,
"RL-15 is more efficient, but RL-17 probably has a bit lower pressure, conserving case life. And, I'm going to try 1 more grain using RL-17. There were no signs of max pressure from that powder. That should give me the 2500 fps I'm looking for from the 286gr Hornady."
Can't hope for much more from that cartridge I think. Don't know if he'll find 2500MV or not.
Regards
My buddy is working up 9.3x62 loads as we speak with both ReL15 and ReL17. Both are accurate and print to that same spot. He has had good results with ReL15 of course. But he has got slightly more velocity using 4 more grains of ReL17. At present he has a very accurate ReL17 load of which he has 2468MV (corrected average from 2457 instrumental) with Hornady's 286gr bullets. He wrote me this week remarking,
"RL-15 is more efficient, but RL-17 probably has a bit lower pressure, conserving case life. And, I'm going to try 1 more grain using RL-17. There were no signs of max pressure from that powder. That should give me the 2500 fps I'm looking for from the 286gr Hornady."
Can't hope for much more from that cartridge I think. Don't know if he'll find 2500MV or not.
Regards
I have used the '62 for more than 25 years, and have reached 2500+ with 286s, but it has always been a tad hard on brass and not quite as accurate. Besides, 2400 is plenty for any game on the planet, as demonstrated over the past 106 years, and very comfortable to shoot.
The 270 at over 2500 works quite well, too.
Has he tried Varget yet? It works well, as does 4320, 4895, 4064, 3031,............... It is just a great cartridge!
If he wants to try something a bit heavier, I will send you those Barnes Original 300 gr spitzers. They are like the 358s you got from Garry.
Ted
Thanks for the awesome thread and outstanding pictures Ted.
I must have missed a thread somewhere regarding your fine rifle and I'd really like to know more about it.
Kevan,
I'll let the fellow who put it together post about it. I think you may know him.
Ted
Some have been asking about the rifle Ted used on his family adventure. We had a nice chat on the phone the other evening and, among other things, this thread was discussed. I am only too pleased to describe the rifle.
Ted told me that the rifle has acquired some 'character' in it's travels. That is as it should be.
Ted's 9.3X62 Mauser is one I built on a JC Higgins(FN Mauser) action with a 21' Heym barrel. Other than lapping the locking lugs/seats and tapering the rear tang, nothing has been done to the action. The safety is factory and the trigger is a Timney Sportsman. Action/barrel work was done at Corlanes in Dawson Creek, BC. I did the metal polishing and slow rust bluing.
The stock is unique in that it a English Walnut laminate given to me by a Local gunsmith. It was configured as a target stock with a huge beaver-tail forend, roll-over cheekpiece and a very generous grip. It's total weigh was well over four pounds. After inletting and bedding, a few minutes with a bandsaw on the forend and roll-over and a few hours with a rasp reduced the weight considerably.IIRC, the completed rifle weighed about 8.5 lbs. when scoped with a Leupold VX 2-7X33 using Talley steel rings and bases.
The forend tip, grip cap are ebony as is the trim around the bolt stop. The recoil pad is a 1" Pachmayr Decellerator and the swivel band and stud are from Gentry.
The first two pictures were taken before installing the barrel band.
Ted told me that the rifle has acquired some 'character' in it's travels. That is as it should be.
Ted's 9.3X62 Mauser is one I built on a JC Higgins(FN Mauser) action with a 21' Heym barrel. Other than lapping the locking lugs/seats and tapering the rear tang, nothing has been done to the action. The safety is factory and the trigger is a Timney Sportsman. Action/barrel work was done at Corlanes in Dawson Creek, BC. I did the metal polishing and slow rust bluing.
The stock is unique in that it a English Walnut laminate given to me by a Local gunsmith. It was configured as a target stock with a huge beaver-tail forend, roll-over cheekpiece and a very generous grip. It's total weigh was well over four pounds. After inletting and bedding, a few minutes with a bandsaw on the forend and roll-over and a few hours with a rasp reduced the weight considerably.IIRC, the completed rifle weighed about 8.5 lbs. when scoped with a Leupold VX 2-7X33 using Talley steel rings and bases.
The forend tip, grip cap are ebony as is the trim around the bolt stop. The recoil pad is a 1" Pachmayr Decellerator and the swivel band and stud are from Gentry.
The first two pictures were taken before installing the barrel band.
Truly a beautiful piece of work !
Unless I'm mistaken that was posted a couple years ago when you had it built ?.... and I admired it then.
I had no idea that it changed hands.
Unfortunately after reading this wonderful thread about the bear hunting trip started by Ted, I fell into a deep depression and the only way I could escape was to buy a mint CZ550 Mannlicher carbine in 9.3X62.
Thanks so much for posting the info about that awesome rifle.
Unless I'm mistaken that was posted a couple years ago when you had it built ?.... and I admired it then.
I had no idea that it changed hands.
Unfortunately after reading this wonderful thread about the bear hunting trip started by Ted, I fell into a deep depression and the only way I could escape was to buy a mint CZ550 Mannlicher carbine in 9.3X62.
Thanks so much for posting the info about that awesome rifle.
Rocket Surgery
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I think you need to register it with the canadian firearms center first, you may even need a PAL. I don't know if there's some kind of loophole that allows people from other countries to come in and shoot without being on a guided hunt.
It is a very finely crafted rifle. Sounds like you are on the team now, too, Kevan. Congrats on the CZ.
Ted
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I have used the '62 for more than 25 years, and have reached 2500+ with 286s, but it has always been a tad hard on brass and not quite as accurate. Besides, 2400 is plenty for any game on the planet, as demonstrated over the past 106 years, and very comfortable to shoot.
The 270 at over 2500 works quite well, too.
Has he tried Varget yet? It works well, as does 4320, 4895, 4064, 3031,............... It is just a great cartridge!
If he wants to try something a bit heavier, I will send you those Barnes Original 300 gr spitzers. They are like the 358s you got from Garry.
Ted
Hi Ted;
I'm the guy referred to in this post. Whelen B. didn't know I was a member here, although I rarely visit as revealed by my number of posts. I do spend a fair amount of time on a couple of large American based forums though. But, I'm glad I found this thread after a search and Whelen B's reporting the details to me. He's a good friend and we've been hunting partners for quite a few years.
I too want to thank you for a marvelous thread, and all the info provided.
Well, your comment about "Only a retired pastor can shoot a bear like this..." is kind of depressing because I've only been married to the same beautiful gal for 54 years and counting! Besides that, I'll be 76 in a few days (the 29th) and I ain't 'tired yet! I still preach every Sunday, help run a men's floor hockey program and lead a men's Bible study every Wednesday evening. Besides those few things, I snowshoe in the winter (looking for wolf/coyote), hunt bears in September, moose in October and deer in November. And, about once a week I write a blog on Big Bores... now it's my 9.3 X 62, which, of course, is a medium bore. I also publish some reloading manuals for the interested. When I can't find much else to do, I help my wife with chores around the house and help her plant a garden in the spring. Life is never dull! Next fall, I'm hoping to make one more trip, God willing, to Northern Ontario for another moose.
You can find me at:
www.bigbores.ca
Bob
P.S. My wife and I are from New Brunswick, but have lived in Ontario since 1975. Also some years in Quebec (I'm bilingual) and Nova Scotia. Your "freighter" looks like a cross between a dingy and a dory to me
. I'm from a fishing community on the east coast. My dad owned a 70-foot dragger, and my summers were spent in helping to "land" a few thousand pounds of haddock, cod, etc., each day until we had a "load", including a few lobster and the occasional 8' shark. Other than that I don't know very much!Take good care of you'r wife of 44 years, she's the best thing that has happened to you other than your Other Relationship. And, take good care of yourself. Those photos say you do both. God bless and Merry Christmas!
