Another CZ vs Savage...................sorry

JasonYuke said:
This came from one of those junk savages ? With dynamite noble ammo at 50 y

What a piece of crap lol ya lol

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Almost as crap as my Annie lol

I have had them both and to be honest one would out shoot the other on any givin day.

I did like the feel of the cz. But I own the. Savage
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Hard to argue with those results......nice shooting!
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
If you slap the bolt down with finger and thumb so that it makes a two stage sound (if you know what I mean), it will not trip the trigger. If you push the bold handle with just one finger forward hard and fast so that it goes forward and down going fast enough that it only makes a single sound (there are two sounds, with enough speed it seems like one), the trigger will lock up.

I'm sure it's not that your rifles are immune to the problem, you maybe just aren't replicating the motion exactly. Since this is the motion you would typically make while shooting properly without taking the rifle from your shoulder and looking for a quick follow up shot, it's a big problem.

If you're shooting gophers here in Alberta and are looking for quick shots on multiple targets, the rifle is utterly unsuitable as the trigger will usually be locked when you try to squeeze it. An old cooey 60 is more reliable and suitable.

I guess the Savage is okay when used at the range... if the scope base holes aren't misaligned as they usually are. Even then, I guess they're okay as long as you're shooting at a fixed range.

But maybe you guys are right. They're probably totally awesome quality pieces. I have one for sale. Really cheap. Any takers? ;)
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Went to the range last night with a guy from work to make sure the gopher .22s were shooting straight. He had a Savage Mk II FV. He's from southern SK and the rifle had many thousands of rounds through it, and definitly many rides in the tractor. It was a very well worked in gopher rifle haha.

Using Win 555s his Savage shot pretty much identical to my CZ 452 Varmint. Both rifles shot very well and it would take match ammo, a good rest and a calm day to tell a difference between the two.

However, I had to think of this thread because three times out of maybe 500 rounds shot his trigger locked up. He would just lift the bolt and lower it back down and it would fix it. I asked him about it and he said, meh it just happens now and again. He cycles the bolt very fast (so do I). The Savage also had the odd feeding problem, but I attribute that to well used and bumped around magazines.

I've never once had any misfeeds or misfires (aside from the odd dud round) from my 452 Varmint. However my new 455 Lux will not feed CCI Blazers whatsoever, so both companies can have the odd feeding problem. Both companies produce an accurate rifle. I just like nice walnut, bolt "feel", bettter fit and finish and overall design of the CZ.
 
Last weekend I too had the acutrigger lock up on me... My fvsr. Probably 10-15 times outta 300 rounds which was very odd cause it had NEVER happened to me before! With this rifle, with my BV, my past g model and my past 93r17...

Made me think of this thread as well. Anyone have any tips, on how to fix it?
I tried and tried to replicate it and imagine that.. It wouldn't!
 
I own both Savages and CZ's . Like most people have said , they both shoot about the same
from a bench . The differences are in the stock shape and the quality of construction . I find
the CZ stocks , not the thumb hole ones , fit me better and feel more like a centre fire rifle .
The build quality of the CZ is also better. I like the target accu-trigger on my 6BR centerfire
but the rimfire version doesn't adjust light enough for me . CZ magazines feel more solid and
fit in the action better . I have had no issues with the function of either magazines .
If you have the opportunity to test shoot both , do it . It comes down to a personal choice .
It is nice to see Canada stamped in the barrel of the Savage .
 
Ive never owned or shot a CZ, but I own a Savage 17 FV model and did some extra work on her.

cleaned up the trigger & dropped it down to 1.7 lbs
Boyds thumbhole added pillers and bedding the action


This changed the whole feel of the rifle for me. It now feels like a tank, and not in real heavy way either. Just a all around solid feeling rifle to me. I havent taken it out yet but the trigger seems ALOT smoother now.
 
titch-- said:
Ive never owned or shot a CZ, but I own a Savage 17 FV model and did some extra work on her. cleaned up the trigger & dropped it down to 1.7 lbs. Boyds thumbhole added pillers and bedding the action

This changed the whole feel of the rifle for me. It now feels like a tank, and not in real heavy way either. Just a all around solid feeling rifle to me. I havent taken it out yet but the trigger seems ALOT smoother now.
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Nothing wrong with the Savages. Its just that once all the accessories costs are added up, you might as well have gone with the CZ in the first place. Not knocking the Savage...I have two myself and really love them for what they are....inexpensive and accurate rifles.

But my Style and Varmint 452s rock, and have rocked in box-stock condition from day one more than 11 years ago.
 
If you can justify the extra cost by all means go with the cz, my pick is the unit with the manners composite stock, I went with the mkii savage and have no complaints so far. It's 95% as accurate as the cz at 1/2 the price or less. And for me with a $250 rifle and $750 worth of quality 22lr would take me a lot further than a $600 rifle and $400 worth of ammo. Now if you want to get into serious rimfire shooting why not get the best, if you just want a plinker or something to train marksmanship the savage is more than accurate enough for the task at hand.
 
ztunelover said:
If you can justify the extra cost by all means go with the cz, my pick is the unit with the manners composite stock, I went with the mkii savage and have no complaints so far. It's 95% as accurate as the cz at 1/2 the price or less. And for me with a $250 rifle and $750 worth of quality 22lr would take me a lot further than a $600 rifle and $400 worth of ammo. Now if you want to get into serious rimfire shooting why not get the best, if you just want a plinker or something to train marksmanship the savage is more than accurate enough for the task at hand.
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This was my thinking. I had a budget of $1000 for a rifle last year. I bought the 93FVSS (.22WMR with tupperware stock) because it was 1/2 the price of the CZ, and all reports are that it is just as accurate.
With the $300 saved I was able to purchased good scope ($500 tactical Hawke) instead of the $150 Bushnell I would have had to settle for, plus a bi-pod and proper shooting sling.
In the coming year I'll put a Boyds stock on it and it will still be $150 less expensive than the CZ.
Now...if I was buying rifle to hand down to my kids and wanted something they could cherish...I'd definitely go CZ.
 
I don't know where you guy's are buying your CZ's??? I got a CZ452 Scout landed to my door for $440.00 and a CZ452 American for landed for $560.00 That includes shipping and taxes.

I have four Savages and yes they are great guns for the price but they ain't no CZ!
 
I've been going over this in my head as well. I have the Savage Mkii ( pencil barrel no iron sights, plastic stock), but I am downsizing my collection a bit and am planning on buying a "nice" 22 rifle since I really like to shoot 22 and eventually I want to try and take it out further than the 50yards I usually shoot. I am planning on going the CZ 455 Varmint route since I have held one and it felt great in my hand. Looks amazing and the heavy barrel and walnut stock are beautiful. I am sure that it won't shoot a whole lot differently from the Savage, but I am looking for a gun that when you look at it you go "that's nice". The Savage does not get those looks haha, but it is a fine shooter. If I wasn't selling off some other guns I would stick with the Savage.
 
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