Anti Swat Attire - Hunting Small game w/B&G rifles

I would say if you really want to be safe, go shooting in an outfit like this.



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Deckard said:
Change the rifle...

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You know, if you had something like that (non-restricted of course) in public, I really doubt anyone would do anything other than laugh, especially if you had your girlfriend carrying it. Anyone stupid enough to try it? (I'm not serious on that one, don't...seriously).
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so no one thinks he was still too close to a school? :mad:

sure his rights were violated but he made some poor decisions himself that day. what he wore only stereotyped the situation.

although it isn't documented in the handbook, I am sure profiling is a tactic used by all LEOs to some degree conciously or subconciously.:eek:

that guy is a dumbass plain and simple his decisions created the situation

traditional blaze orange and away from public perception. ;)

f7
 
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if you can't see the other side to the point, then your doomed to fail. If you can then you are probably a responsible owner.

As an experiment why don't you duplicate that guys actions and count how many fingers end up your A$$. sure your rights will be violated. If you think thats a battle that you want to fight and that you should be allowed to shoot next to a school then have at it. No one is talking about hiding - just exercise common sense.

If my kids at that school I hope you can find the respect to move further than 300 m.

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fed007 said:
if you can't see the other side to the point, then your doomed to fail. If you can then you are probably a responsible owner.

As an experiment why don't you duplicate that guys actions and count how many fingers end up your A$$. sure your rights will be violated. If you think thats a battle that you want to fight and that you should be allowed to shoot next to a school then have at it. No one is talking about hiding - just exercise common sense.

If my kids at that school I hope you can find the respect to move further than 300 m.

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So Jonathan Login's saying that he packed up and left when he noticed kids arriving at school can and will be ignored? That "other side" you're talking about is violation of civil rights. Fact that Login was acted reasponsibly is largely ignored, because to see THAT point, you also have to acknowledge gross misconduct on the part of police force, and heaven forbid in our liberal society, individual rights to excecise his/her civil rights might prevail over groundless fear without proof. You're saying Jonathan Login wasn't a victim, that what happened to him was justified due to his action. Well, then maybe Rodney King should have known better than to launch a lawsuit, cause what he suffered was just part of the system.

BTW, Amnesty International's 2005 report listed Canada as one of the notable countries to experience widespread police misconduct. Is that what us as taxpaying citizens should just accept as a fact?
 
fed007 said:
that guy is a dumbass plain and simple his decisions created the situation
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I suppose you blame women who get attacked when wearing provocative clothing?

At most, the cops should have asked him a few questions, then wished him good hunting and driven off.
 
fed007 said:
so no one thinks he was still too close to a school? :mad:

sure his rights were violated but he made some poor decisions himself that day. what he wore only stereotyped the situation.

although it isn't documented in the handbook, I am sure profiling is a tactic used by all LEOs to some degree conciously or subconciously.:eek:

that guy is a dumbass plain and simple his decisions created the situation

traditional blaze orange and away from public perception. ;)

f7
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Did you read the court document? It explains the situation. He was over 300yards from the school on hunting ground, when students started to get near, he moved on. Even the guy who called it in was not sure if any laws were broken. Not all LEO would take hunters down in front of there family and strip search them. How did the situation warrant an instrusive search?,
Basically you are saying he asked for it......? Because of what he wore.
So it is OK to take down everyone who wears a "trench coat"....?
If I remember correctly, he has a slinged rifle. The search of his home was BS too, he had rifle parts, and an open box of .22 ammo. I think after they realized they had ####ed up, they were in self-preservation mode,,,....better find something, hence the panic to search the house.
 
acrashb said:
I suppose you blame women who get attacked when wearing provocative clothing?

At most, the cops should have asked him a few questions, then wished him good hunting and driven off.
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+1.
 
fed007 said:
so no one thinks he was still too close to a school? :mad:

sure his rights were violated but he made some poor decisions himself that day. what he wore only stereotyped the situation.

although it isn't documented in the handbook, I am sure profiling is a tactic used by all LEOs to some degree conciously or subconciously.:eek:

that guy is a dumbass plain and simple his decisions created the situation

traditional blaze orange and away from public perception. ;)

f7
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I continue to be amazed at peopel that believe that some clothes, some guns etc are "bad" and others are "good"

Blaze orange isn't even traditional in many areas, BTW. Nobody wears blaze in BC
 
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You're saying Jonathan Logan wasn't a victim, that what happened to him was justified due to his action. Well, then maybe Rodney King should have known better than to launch a lawsuit, cause what he suffered was just part of the system.
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Rodney King is a bad example. Mr. King got exactly what was coming to him when you resist arrest and repeatedly attack officers. How come the driver of the car wasn't beaten? Simple, he complied. The only video most of the public saw was a black man laying on the ground be struck by white officers. No one asked, "Hey, what happened before that? Where is the half an hour of video?" Sure there may have been excessive force but that was maybe 2 minutes at the end of a half hour struggle with a drugged up and violent criminal.

But I digress...

As for Fed007, he needs to give his head a shake. Regardless of where Mr. Logan was or how he was dressed, all arguing can be stopped by asking this simple question: Did Mr. Logan break any laws?
 
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Rodney King is a bad example. Mr. King got exactly what was coming to him when you resist arrest and repeatedly attack officers. How come the driver of the car wasn't beaten? Simple, he complied. The only video most of the public saw was a black man laying on the ground be struck by white officers. No one asked, "Hey, what happened before that? Where is the half an hour of video?" Sure there may have been excessive force but that was maybe 2 minutes at the end of a half hour struggle with a drugged up and violent criminal.
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In terms of legality of his arrest, yes I do not contest the fact that he was prick, and should have complied with the officers. But in term of Civil Rights, there is no mistake, his was violated. Especially when the testimony of other officers proved that there were other methods of subdueing said suspect, which was available to those officers at the time. Mind you, I don't think Rodney King was anything NAACP made him out to be. He had a long history of criminal behaviour, and he didn't know what he was about to start. All I know is that his civil right was violated, and that was only point that connected with what happened with Jonathan Login.
 
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good thread??!!! :D :dancingbanana:

we go from me wearing pink spandex and becoming a liberal to rodney king getting a beat down.

wait - THAT is a good thread!! :D

ok - we all agree no laws were broken and what we wear is irrelevant. Lets focus on the vincinity of the school to isolate the debate - to satisfy my curiousity.

btw what caliber was he shooting ? 223? is it likely he walked around hunting sweeping the school grounds inadvertantly?

as the official devils advocate - is it a good idea to shoot near a road? a school? just because it is legal doesn;t mean its a good idea.

any opinions on the distance from the school and how much more magnitude it has than what buddy was wearing? (also comment on the concept on wheter a 223 can be heard from 300 m away while the kiddies are trying to concentrate on math equations.

f7
 
Whether it is a good idea or not is not really a factor for police to consider. I should only be punished if I break the law, not if I use poor judgment.
This is Canada, as long as I stay within the law and do not step on anyone else's rights, I am within MY RIGHT TO DO AS I PLEASE.
 
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