- Location
- Islander in Texas, AB
In the line, congoing all the way to to a sweet new rig. I put the GSG under my pillow every night. Waiting for the Gun Fairy.
Any word on development of a short GSG-16 barrel?
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rommelrommel
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
What law is broken if I cut a bare rifle barrel down to 3” long? None.
As to a cut barrel that’s part of a firearm:
457mm = 17.99~ inches. Thus, You’ve only produced a prohibited firearm if you have adapted a firearm to be less than 25.98” OAL or to have had a barrel of less than 17.99 inches while still being over 25.98” OAL.
If there’s a section in there that we’re all missing about cutting a 26” barrel down to 20” and installing it on a rifle that is an offence please point it out.
Call your local CFO and ask them. I did, and they said it is illegal to cut any factory made barrel. The team leader of the B.C. CFO took the time to read me the passage and simply said "No, you cannot cut a factory made barrel". I also have it in an email somewhere, I will try to look it up when I get a free moment.
OK....so, we have the first three 9" barrels made up, chambered, blasted and ready to send for blueing. They should be back by mid next week and ready to install then. The nice guy that lent us his rifle for R&D has first dibs on barrel #1. The other two are up for grabs. First come first served.
NOTE : These require PROFESSIONAL GUNSMITH installation. Once they leave our shop we will not be responsible for any part of the installation or issues that may arise from the change. Your gunsmith will need to install, cut the extractor notch to match your trunnion and tune the rifle if required.
DISCLAIMER : If you install or have this barrel installed and do not pin your folding / collapsible stock and your rifle is shorter than 660mm in it's shortest configuration then you will be in contradiction of the law and may be subject to all of the bad things that come with that. Under no circumstances will we be responsible for YOU breaking the law.
9" barrel with a 1/2-28 tpi threaded muzzle :
NOTE : These require PROFESSIONAL GUNSMITH installation. Once they leave our shop we will not be responsible for any part of the installation or issues that may arise from the change. Your gunsmith will need to install, cut the extractor notch to match your trunnion and tune the rifle if required.
DISCLAIMER : If you install or have this barrel installed and do not pin your folding / collapsible stock and your rifle is shorter than 660mm in it's shortest configuration then you will be in contradiction of the law and may be subject to all of the bad things that come with that. Under no circumstances will we be responsible for YOU breaking the law.
9" barrel with a 1/2-28 tpi threaded muzzle :
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rommelrommel
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You told us to read the criminal code and the firearms act so I did take the time to review both again and found no offence to describe the behaviour you said was illegal. So, now I also did that and posited cutting a 32” pump shotgun barrel down to 20” and was told that was fine. I was told I can’t go below 18” and was suggested that I should stay a bit above in case my measuring wasn’t too precise. Also reminded to respect the OAL of 26”.
- Location
- Nova Scotia
CFO's are not always right. The person you want to call is a firearm lawyer.
Sure you can. Just cannot cut it past 18" for a pump/bolt/manual action, or 18.5" for a semi. Epps cut down my 1100, and made sure it stayed over 18.5" actually went 18.7 just incase some person measuring tape is wrong. If it was truly illegal, they wouldn't have done it.
Call the cfo out if you think they are wrong. I just want my short barrel, Joe and Leigh would like to stay out of jail. If you think their comments is inappropriate or incorrect. Pm me with your email and i will send off the butthurt form
TheNatural21
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fort Nelson, BC
Yeah that's right. I've cut down a couple barrels and did the homework first. You can cut your own barrel, but if you cross the 18" line you're breaking the law. 30" to 20", or anything like that, and you're fine.
Also... and this is one of my favorite examples of canadian firearms law... You can get a short barrel on a manual action rifle or rimfire as long as it came that way. Order a 14" barrel for your shotgun and that's fine. But if you cut your own barrel to 14", that's illegal. It's about how it arrives at that length, not about what the final barrel length is. Because Canada.
EDIT: I'm less positive but pretty sure you can't cut a barrel shorter than 18" either which is what Dlask was likely referring to. If you cut a 16" barrel down to 9" then you have a 9" barrel that arrived at that length by cutting.... which is illegal. If you buy a Dlask barrel that came out of the "factory" at 9" then it's okay. Because Canada.
Also... yeah as somebody mentioned I believe the wording of the law is about a firearm with a barrel mounted on it. So you could technically take a spare barrel and cut it to 6". But what's the point if you then can't mount it on a firearm? 6" paperweight?
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Hope I can get an answer this time and not snark/be ignored:
What is stopping your company from sourcing a pile of barrel trunnions, installing your barrels on them, cutting the extractor groove, and selling them as a drop in barrel?
Lots of things. We had thought of that but moved on, it's just not possible.
Thanks for the reply, and I'll be in touch with your business soon.
Once the barrels are back from bluing, (mid next week I'm hoping), I will post pictures of it installed on the rifle.
Perfect, thank you
On man, so excited. If it looks good I’m buying the GSG and then sending it off to you guys for a barrel install.
UPDATE : We have received a reply from Lother-Walther regarding properly pre-sized barrel blanks for this project. Once the import / export humdrum is done I will start another thread for barrel pre-orders. Stay tuned and please give us space to work. I love you guys, I really do, but we cannot be constantly answering emails and phone calls on this because that doesn't leave us time to do the actual work. Once the details are sorted this forum will be the first to know.
Hope that's not too 'curt and snarky' to offend anyone out there ?
In the meantime, y'all have yourselves a fantastic weekend. Shoot, spend time with your loved ones and get into the Holiday Spirit. The Black Friday sales are a comin' !
Hope that's not too 'curt and snarky' to offend anyone out there ?
In the meantime, y'all have yourselves a fantastic weekend. Shoot, spend time with your loved ones and get into the Holiday Spirit. The Black Friday sales are a comin' !
- Location
- Southern Ontario
So if we're out in the wild with this shortened GSG-16, how do we prove to a random LEO that this is a legal 9" setup? Bring the sales receipt and hope that they don't take you into custody whilst they cross reference to verify that it's legit somehow? What if you forget your sales receipt?
Will the barrel have some kind of serial number or etching that says "this is a legal shortened barrel, better call Saul to verify @ DLASK", or.....?
Will the barrel have some kind of serial number or etching that says "this is a legal shortened barrel, better call Saul to verify @ DLASK", or.....?
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Would that increase the cost? Are they going to be regular chamber or a match/target? Because I like to have a short barrel, but I don't want to lose the reliability with bulk ammo. Because that what the gun is really meant, plink and such, not target. So I don't see the point of a LW barrel.
You cannot thread the standard barrel, due to the barrel diameter. So be obvious that it's not just a shorten factory barrel.
