Anybody hunting in Canada with 9.3x62
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Reading a bit on different forums regarding the 9.3x62 and the 250 acubond is the most mentioned bullet overall! Is the choice a good one for bigger tougher game like wood bisons(not the smaller plaine bison), grizzly and moose( moose ain’t really tough but is big)? How does that bullet hold up in general? How much lead is shed after recovery?
I use a lot of 250 Accubond for my hunting.
I never recovered a 9.3 bullet from any of the games I shot. Not even a 270 Speer. I always shoot moose from a close distance.
I only once found a piece of jacket inside a bear. So, only thing I can tell for sure, it goes through and kill them.
I never recovered a 9.3 bullet from any of the games I shot. Not even a 270 Speer. I always shoot moose from a close distance.
I only once found a piece of jacket inside a bear. So, only thing I can tell for sure, it goes through and kill them.
Bullet on left (first shot) went through both lower front shoulder bones of a 1500lb bull moose at 100y and was recovered under the offside hide. Fairly damaged, and there was a good bit of carnage in there from the lead and bone frag, lost about 10lbs of meat. Bullet on right went through forward ribs, through the opposite shoulder and was recovered under the offside hide. The second shot was by no means required but as seen in previous photo, he was only about 15 yards from the water and that's where I wanted him to stay. At the first shot he reared up on his hind legs, spun 180* toward the water and that's when I hit him with the 2nd one and he dropped on the spot. The heart was in three pieces. Bullet on left weighs 167.3gr (67% retention), bullet on right weighs 162.5gr (65% retention). I'd shoot these at anything that walks or swims with confidence.
I think the 250gr barnes ttsx or swift a-frame would do the job equally as well but I think the reason you see the 250AB used more often is the higher BC which allows a much longer effective range. I was interested in getting my hands on some 220gr Lapua Naturalis because I really do prefer shooting copper, but the BC is poor (.344) and even if you get it travelling at 2700fps, it still can't hold 1800fps beyond ~375 yards whereas the AB is still doing 1800 to 450. Not that a lot of people are shooting at these ranges but who doesn't like having the option? The performance of the AB really can't be matched in this calibre.
Re: the above math on my load, I'm reporting what it shoots at the range, I can't explain why that calculation suggests it should be 2" lower than it is. When I punch my numbers into most online calculators, it suggests I should be between -7 and -9.5 and that's where it is.
FWIW, I also shot a cow elk with that load this year at about 40 yards right under the chin and I can only assume that bullet is still burrowing a hole through the side of the mountain. It may pop out the other side with enough energy left to kill a wildebeest.
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Calculators are only as good as the data that is put into them, and there were some missing factors, such as sight line above bore" etc... these numbers should always be confirmed in the real world at the range, as you have done... but no matter how I sliced it with various variables, it seems that to be in the neighborhood of 8" low at 300, you would have to be around +3" @ 100... perhaps your load is faster than 2550 fps or the sight height is greater than 1.5" or likely a combination of both??? Who knows, but the range is the correct way to do it. I am always nervous when someone is shooting from an unconfirmed chart.
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I posted, "the 285 gr bullets just a tad high at 200, close to four inches low at 250, and about ten low at 300, depending the bullet profile." in post #104 above. Those are the trajectory figures at meters of distance. Easy to confirm on a silhouette range.
As well, 300 meters is 328 yards, so corresponds very close to your eight inches low at 300.
Ted
Johnn Peterson
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Question Ted. I had/have a small selection of bullets to 'feed' my 9.3x62. Although with the accuracy results, I've only tried and plan to stay with the 285gr PRVI. In addition to those I had by Matrix that I traded off, I still do have some 250gr Speer, 286gr & 231gr Norma and a couple of boxes of Barnes 286gr TSX. Question, have you ever tried Barnes and if so, whats your opinion of them???
rallygreen
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What would you fellows say an unfired CZ 550fs in 9.3x62 with a metal follower would go for these days? It's looking more and more like I won't be using it, with every precious trip of mine up north involving fishing. It seems a waste to consign it to the safe - I bought it new, admired it and put it in a sock.
I’ll give you $100 and I pay shipping��
But in more seriousness, there is one in 308 on the EE for under $1000.... https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2088350-CZ-550-FS-308-Win?highlight=CZ+fs
rallygreen
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Haha, thank you! I searched poorly, will check there more
I have never used a Barnes in the 9.3, Johnn, mainly because the Norma 286gr PPDC and the Speer 270gr have done so well. A single shot every time on big game, but once.
My experience with the Barnes in the 280 Rem and 375 H&H has been disappointing, probably because we intentionally do not shoot animals we intend to eat anywhere but in the lungs.
Ted
I shot a large black bear in the lungs / heart area with a Barnes 250 TSX @ 2500 fps @ 60 feet and it acted just like a drill... It was dead, the bullet drilled through the lower lungs and the heart. But the in and out holes were the same size. I never tried it against a moose, the harder rib cage might have the bullet act better, never wanted to try it, though.
The 270 Speer works great, I shot a large cow @ 150/200 feet with open sights and it went through the beast and produce a large blood mist around and the white birches 15 feet in the back were blood stained like it they'd been spray painted...
Yeah thanks, I read all that a while back, and yes lots of great info, like Norma, Woodleigh and swift are staying together and retaining lots of there initial weight!! I really like the look of that Rhino but not sure they still exist....
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