Anyone bought a new Savage lately?

I own two Savages a 12FV in .223 It is very accurate I replaced the plastic stock with a Boyd's thumb-hole which I pillar bedded.
I recently purchased a model 11 hunter with wood stock in .223 as well, It is also extremely accurate and I am still working up a load for it.
The only complaint I have is with the 11 the removable magazine is difficult to insert. Not a big deal as I never remove it anyway.
The accutrigger seems to improve after a bit of use.

I would purchase another savage.

Terry
 
So your complaint is that the accu trigger worked exactly as described? Opening and closing the bolt re-sets the accutrigger
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You misunderstand. I realize that's a feature of the trigger. What I was complaining about is that closing the bolt or jolting the rifle resulted in the trigger being disabled and needing to be reset.

And yes, I can quite easily make it to the SGGC on any warmer weekend. Feel free to name a time and date, and I'll be more than happy to demonstrate my Savage as a superior shooter.
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You may or may not outshoot me. I don't dispute that. I've said that Savage makes accurate firearms. I'd be happy to show you, on your rifle, where the fit and finish issues exist.
 
AB
Clearly you have an axe to grind with Savage, other folks here like them some more and others. I don't see your need to continue to challenge everyone in this thread that likes these rifles? FS
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
You misunderstand. I realize that's a feature of the trigger. What I was complaining about is that closing the bolt or jolting the rifle resulted in the trigger being disabled and needing to be reset
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Which is exactly what the accutrigger is designed to do, Its to keep the gun from going off if dropped or otherwise mistreated
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
I'd be happy to show you, on your rifle, where the fit and finish issues exist.
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Thank you for clearing that up, but I think I will pass on your offer to "show" me all the flaws on the rifle - after all a competent gunsmith sold it too me new. I am not really interested in knowing where all the superficial flaws exist. I can do that same exercise on just about any rifle under $1,500 and assembled with some kind of factory or assembly line output. As an example of a near flawless rifle, Prophet River has a dandy hand made rifle on sale for over $20,000.

As long as they shoot, are reliable and the shooter is happy, why would anyone be too concerned about the "flaws" as you describe.
 
aprilfoolsme said:
Which is exactly what the accutrigger is designed to do, Its to keep the gun from going off if dropped or otherwise mistreated
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Yes, but of course a triggers should be able to maintain it's engagement without such a kludge. As I said, even when adjusted to FULL pull weight it would still trip when the rifle was bumped or the bolt closed hard.

There is no other word for it. That's DEFECTIVE.

If that's honestly how it's supposed to operate then it's a kludge design which is also a defective design.

Quality triggers do not change state when the rifle is bumped or the bolt closed hard. They do not discharge and they do not need to be 're-set'.
 
I will give him that, the accu-joke is horrible! If you push on the trigger rearward and sideways a little without depressing the blade, with the safety on or off, you have to reset it! You then have to lift and lower the bolt for the trigger to function. It takes very little pressure btw, I discovered this by accident while working on and cleaning one of my rifles, tried it on the others, they all do it! Tried it on 3 in the LGS and same thing, the owner of the store was not aware of this prior, but he is now!
 
And yet many gun writers have described it as 'the best factory trigger ever produced.'

I can think of about a dozen which are measurably superior even discounting the flaws listed above.

Sometimes it's not hard to see how the money flows!

In my experience, actual product performance (any brand) frequently differs from stated performance from paid magazine writers/reviewers.

Take, for example, the Ruger American Rifle. A whole bunch of journalists were invited to a posh weekend of shooting and partying. They all came away writing that the Ruger American Rifle was wonderful and fired very well FROM ALL FIELD POSITIONS. They even featured some video on, I think, Nosler's Magnum TV or maybe Cabela's Ultimate Adventures. Anyway, supposedly they were shooting from many positions including prone, sitting, standing unsupported, standing unsupported with sling etc.

The problem? Try a Ruger American rifle. Attach a sling. Shoot from standing using the sling as support. The tension from the sling which would normally stabilize most rifles causes the fore stock to bend so much that it touches the barrel. I've tried it on several of these rifles. It happens 100% of the time. The POI changes! It's a design flaw.

So why are so many of these writers saying that it's the second coming, and nearly flawless? I guess the same reason they say the things they do about the accu-trigger.

Follow the money.
 
fasteel congrads on your 250 savage. I was looking in to getting one would be a perfect blacktail cougar truck gun for me but I pretty much need stainless, and wanted a detach mag for this one and the only offering in a SS 250 savage is a floor plate mag. Thinking I'm going to go with a model 16 FCSS in 260. Yes I know Savages are no show gun and have limitations compared to my Husqvarnas and Ruger mk 11 bolt guns for instance, but some advantages for what I'm looking for here too. I'm in.
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
I have owned 6 starting with one of those 111 Packages. It was the one where they forgot to throw it in the vibratory tumbler. I sold it here on the EE (under my original screen name) and the buyer was really happy - because it took a TON of rehab to get the damn thing to reasonable condition. I put in those hours and $$$ so don't tell me they're not crap.

I've had one with an accutrigger where the safety sear block would trip just by closing the bolt hard as set from the factory. I had to adjust it to maximum weight just to prevent that from happening and even then it still happened sometimes. The accutrigger isn't really a great trigger. It's just designed so that when it fails, it does so in a less dangerous manger so that the user can lighten it to levels that are unsafe in any other rifle and still have it not go 'boom'. It's about liability, not about having a great trigger. I would love to have the Elk I've been hunting for in my sights after a long hard hunt only to find that the trigger has locked up! A quick google search revealed a lot of people with the same problem...

Someone mentioned the 'Axis'. Mine had the receiver warped and was impossible to zero from the factory. I had to shim the rear base three times to even get on paper. Great quality control.

Oh, it would also decock itself all the time. Savage issued a recall for that but the two springs they put in the bolt were no better than the original factory spring. Obviously this was a well designed and tested bolt!

Savage rifles are bagbage. Those who like them, simply don't know them.
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Were you banned once?
 
Salty said:
fasteel congrads on your 250 savage. I was looking in to getting one would be a perfect blacktail cougar truck gun for me but I pretty much need stainless, and wanted a detach mag for this one and the only offering in a SS 250 savage is a floor plate mag.
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Salty, Savage offers the American Classic in the stainless steel version as well, and for some reason it's cheaper than the blued model I ordered. Plus it's mag fed, not an internal box mag.
 
The Accutrigger is designed as a safety system, it is designed to disengage the trigger if the fire arm is handled roughly or dropped. This allows the accutrigger to have light trigger pulls but retain the safety of a heavy trigger pull like say Remmingtons have
 
aprilfoolsme said:
The Accutrigger is designed as a safety system, it is designed to disengage the trigger if the fire arm is handled roughly or dropped. This allows the accutrigger to have light trigger pulls but retain the safety of a heavy trigger pull like say Remmingtons have
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I have my new Accutrigger as loose as can be and I'm still at 3 pounds, tightened up and we are at 4.5. FS
 
MadDog said:
Salty, Savage offers the American Classic in the stainless steel version as well, and for some reason it's cheaper than the blued model I ordered. Plus it's mag fed, not an internal box mag.
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I've definitley thought about the SS model 14 as well Mad Dog, they're a great looking rifle. On the Savage site though they don't offer 250 in that one only blued wood like you've ordered. And in the floor plate model Stainless model 16. All an aside for me tho I changed my mind, what else is new, and looking at a 260 rem which would be a little more versatile for this particular thought bubble. LOL
 
Fassteel said:
I have my new Accutrigger as loose as can be and I'm still at 3 pounds, tightened up and we are at 4.5. FS
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For an american factory trigger 3 pounds is light, I believe because of liability problems Remington are 6 pounds and anything you do to lighten the trigger pull relieves them of the liability

I have a Sako that once you "set" the trigger if you breath on it to hard it goes off, but then again they are european
 
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