AR180B or a Mini 14
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Greenhorse six
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Yes, I understand,Dimensionally,but the mini looks a lot sleeker what with no pistol grip or extended mag well and big hand guard.
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Well... after the awesome response, and many sides to the arguement, I'm going with...A Pietta SAA...seriously though...decided I wanted the Peacemaker more than another rifle right now, so I bought a nice stock for my .17HRM, and I'm going to grab a Pietta in .45 LC for some Cowboy action shooting. To be honest, the reason I'm staying off of the .223 for a while is A - can't afford the 180B - which seems to be leaps and bounds better than a Mini14. And if I'm going to spend that much on a 180B - I thought maybe I should save a little more and grab an HK SL8.
pitdogboy said:
PE90's are very accurate ... not that the SL8 isn't, but I hate the ergonomics, the high carry handle/sight and the strange bolt release placement. PE90 is in the $3000 range, however and that's a whole new financial level. PE90's also seemed to be on the heavy side ... not great for action shooting, which is mostly what I do with semis.
Pretty well all my shooting is done at the range, so I'm perfectly happy with an assortment of AR15's with a few subguns thrown in just for fun.
If you are looking for non restricted, the AR180 is probably still a good choice given the price. I have heard good things about the Robinson Arms rifles but have never shot them ... although to look at them they don't appear to suffer from any of the eccentric design features of the SL8.
Bear in mind that the Rob Arms will set you back over $2000 brand new.
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Mykhaylo said:
What a completely idiotic argument -You don't want to pay 400-500 for a mini14 because the 180 "seems" better BUT you can't afford it ---so you think you might just buy a $2500 SL8????????????????
You know what instead of the SL8 which you can't afford anyways I agree with the others just buy the $3000 PE90 makes much more sense ...very logical from a guy on a budget where cost is a factor
Greenhorse six
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Ah, something shiny and pretty caught your eye.same thing happiened to me .end up with a Nickeled Beretta Stampede in .357mag
Auk,soo...,why a Pitta SAA and not a Beretta Stampede or a Uberti.and .45 LC is overrated get a .357mag
wait ,you haven't started a new thread yet have you?just kidding have fun with your single action.:beerchug:
Auk,soo...,why a Pitta SAA and not a Beretta Stampede or a Uberti.and .45 LC is overrated get a .357mag
wait ,you haven't started a new thread yet have you?just kidding have fun with your single action.:beerchug:
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No, you're right...I'm kind of an idiot
I thought a used SL8 could be had for around $1400. So when people were talking 1100+ for an Armalite, I started pondering the HK. Only however, because I'm completely off base on its price
Sorry. I'm really not a walking price list. Anyways...
GIXXER said:
No, you're right...I'm kind of an idiot
I thought a used SL8 could be had for around $1400. So when people were talking 1100+ for an Armalite, I started pondering the HK. Only however, because I'm completely off base on its price
Sorry. I'm really not a walking price list. Anyways...
Where are we
Lets get back to the basics.
I think you purchase a Mini-14 shoot it for a season, then you are wiser and will ahve a way better idea of what you want. Learning is important, dont start with something $$$$ and then realise that it is not what you are really looking for. That will really frusterate you in the end.
I have 3 Minis, they are all reliable and I get the job done with them. They are not a sniper rifle and if I miss I take another shot. We are not at war and a second shot ultimatly does not matter.
Everyone here has their opinion. Including me. Having said this I would set a dollar value and find something that does not exceed your budget. Guns are fun and honestly whatever you purchase you will quite enjoy!!!!!!! BIG MONEY guns are for people that know exactly what they are looking for and have alot of cash to spend.
HP
Lets get back to the basics.
I think you purchase a Mini-14 shoot it for a season, then you are wiser and will ahve a way better idea of what you want. Learning is important, dont start with something $$$$ and then realise that it is not what you are really looking for. That will really frusterate you in the end.
I have 3 Minis, they are all reliable and I get the job done with them. They are not a sniper rifle and if I miss I take another shot. We are not at war and a second shot ultimatly does not matter.
Everyone here has their opinion. Including me. Having said this I would set a dollar value and find something that does not exceed your budget. Guns are fun and honestly whatever you purchase you will quite enjoy!!!!!!! BIG MONEY guns are for people that know exactly what they are looking for and have alot of cash to spend.
HP
If you go with a Mini 14 I suggest you buy the 'Ranch Rifle' as it comes drilled and tapped to accept a scope. Buy a newer model if you can as they appear to have improved accuracy over the older ones. Be prepared to put up with poor accuracy with the older models, but there are ways to remedy this to a certain degree, and some of them actually shoot reasonably well ... from what I've heard, mind you.
I think it would be helpful to lay things out and try to keep comparisons fair.
Mini 14, used .... $500 to $600 , new $900 plus tax or about $1000
AR180B used ..... when I've seen them for sale, they are about $1000, new $1075 plus tax. Add $175 for a rail if you wish to mount a scope, which brings the new price to $1250 plus tax or roughly $1400.
Rob Arms dosen't seem to be available at them moment, though occasionally used models show up just under $2000. Rails, etc are extra.
Used SL8, around $1800, new, I'll trust the poster who says $2500 as I can't seem to find a listed price. Add $200-$300 for tax of course and a couple hundred if you want to use AR15 magazines in it.
If you can do without a scope, the VZ858 isn't a bad choice at $650 plus taxes new or $550-$600 used. They are accurate, can use inexpensive milsurp ammo but I have yet to see a good solid scope mount which will work on them (so I wouldn't buy a VZ if using a scope is paramount).
I like the idea of starting with a budget first, then buying a rifle within that range.
Bear in mind that you can sell your rifle off and buy a better, more expensive one down the road. In the meanwhile, you get to shoot it.
I think it would be helpful to lay things out and try to keep comparisons fair.
Mini 14, used .... $500 to $600 , new $900 plus tax or about $1000
AR180B used ..... when I've seen them for sale, they are about $1000, new $1075 plus tax. Add $175 for a rail if you wish to mount a scope, which brings the new price to $1250 plus tax or roughly $1400.
Rob Arms dosen't seem to be available at them moment, though occasionally used models show up just under $2000. Rails, etc are extra.
Used SL8, around $1800, new, I'll trust the poster who says $2500 as I can't seem to find a listed price. Add $200-$300 for tax of course and a couple hundred if you want to use AR15 magazines in it.
If you can do without a scope, the VZ858 isn't a bad choice at $650 plus taxes new or $550-$600 used. They are accurate, can use inexpensive milsurp ammo but I have yet to see a good solid scope mount which will work on them (so I wouldn't buy a VZ if using a scope is paramount).
I like the idea of starting with a budget first, then buying a rifle within that range.
Bear in mind that you can sell your rifle off and buy a better, more expensive one down the road. In the meanwhile, you get to shoot it.
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