p.Rundle
CGN frequent flyer
I know it's against the title, but man, the Ruger American Rimfire, especially the compact, is excellent. I don't care about tool marks, I care that with my buddy's I can shoot clay pigeons at 100m freehanded.
Are browning and rugers (not the american) worth their money ?
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surprisingly ive had my hands on a nice shooting American also. The title is more in reference to the m77/22
Thats why some people drive Corvettes and others drive Porches.
Both have an internal combustion engine and 4 wheels.
They will both go to the Supermarket Seven days a week and one will get you there a wee bit quicker, but in the end it comes to a matter of choice a matter of dollars or not matter at all that they will own both.
Rob
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gunrunner100
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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Well put Rob.
I've shot Cooeys all my life, Lakefields too. When I found and could afford the CZ's and the Rugers, I made a choice. I found the Ruger a better made rifle, no stamped trigger guard.
I've owned a Corvette, buying a Porsche.
I have a 77/17 and a 77/22 in my opinion at today's prices at around 1k they are not quite there. Mine both have no mods and the 17 will do a bit under an inch at 100 and the 22 will do .3's and .4's at 50 with good ammo.
First thing they need is some kind of trigger work, which I'm hoping to do soon. Pretty sure the 22 will make the 50yd challenge after that as I've been close.
If you find em at 6-700 might be worth it, I like mine though and not going anywhere.
No experience on browning and not planning on it.
That said my CZ will do under 1/2in "all day long" it's almost boring, my trick is now to get them all to touch.
First thing they need is some kind of trigger work, which I'm hoping to do soon. Pretty sure the 22 will make the 50yd challenge after that as I've been close.
If you find em at 6-700 might be worth it, I like mine though and not going anywhere.
No experience on browning and not planning on it.
That said my CZ will do under 1/2in "all day long" it's almost boring, my trick is now to get them all to touch.
You aren't clear on what you mean by "worth?"
If a $200 plastic Savage shoots MOA, should I sell my 77's and 1416's and carry the Savage in the field... I don't think so... craftsmanship shows up in places other than on paper bullseyes... so, "Yes," Ruger 77's, Browning T-Bolt's and Anschutz rimfire rifles and the others that cater to more refined tastes are "worth" it.
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Ive owned my fair share of very nice firearms. I do appreciate smooth bolts, perfect machining and firearms you are able to pass down to your kids. The quality you can feel and trust.
I guess I would have to clarify "worth". I am valuing worth in this instance in the ability to preform as a tool. The tool of putting rounds on paper well and put game on the table. A rifle to be carried, not babied in oil and never to lean against a tree, rained on take a spill with.
Im not trying to compare a 900 buck ruger to a 200 savage directly. Everyone knows they are in different class's. Perhaps the $900 buck ruger vrs the $550 CZ though? I would say they are on par with each other in most aspects except price. What makes that ruger worth the extra?
Would I take a ruger 77 over a savage mark 2... Wouldn't even have time to blink before I reached for the ruger...
The ruger vrs the CZ though? Or browning vrs the CZ?
Mr. H proved to me one day how accurate my T-Bolt is.
Man, can he make a small set of Mickey ears.
I like the quality and feel of my M'erican, but I sure wish CZ
would do something about the bolt throw.
I like my awptics mounted low, vewy vewy low.
Man, can he make a small set of Mickey ears.
I like the quality and feel of my M'erican, but I sure wish CZ
would do something about the bolt throw.
I like my awptics mounted low, vewy vewy low.
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Can't say I like the 1416 Anschutz... they shoot nice, but the action, not so much.
The 17xx are nice, but at that price point. Might just as well add a few more $ and get a Cooper 57M...
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Back on topic, there's nothing wrong with the CZ. They are great rifle in their own right. This been said, I like the Browning T-Bolt action a little better.
Are they more accurate? Probably note.
Got to play with my father's T-bolt and wouldn't mind one of my own. One of those would be nice
Can't say I like the 1416 Anschutz... they shoot nice, but the action, not so much.
The 17xx are nice, but at that price point. Might just as well add a few more $ and get a Cooper 57M...
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Back on topic, there's nothing wrong with the CZ. They are great rifle in their own right. This been said, I like the Browning T-Bolt action a little better.
Are they more accurate? Probably note.
Got to play with my father's T-bolt and wouldn't mind one of my own. One of those would be nice
pictured is a slick rifle. What is it ?
It's all relative...... it all depends on what is important to you.....
CZ are good rifles..... so are Rugers..... as I got older, I wanted to build a collection more than I wanted to "own a bunch of guns"... I slowly sold off rifles that didn't fit in with what I felt my collection should be...
Then, the more I hunted my collection the more I began to appreciate using the same action and platform with the same safety system... this led me to collect Rugers.... they are by far my favourite rifles and actions so to me the extra money is worth it.....
I have owned rifles from Ruger, Browning and CZ. Like them all but prefer CZs.
Why is Browning and Ruger able to charge substantially more for what seem to be comparable products to CZ? Perhaps the value of their brand? Ruger and Browning are both huge companies that spend gazillions on advertising and brand development. I bet that Rugger or Browning have more employees working in their sales and marketing department that CZ has in their factory in Uhersky Brod. Just MHO.
K
Why is Browning and Ruger able to charge substantially more for what seem to be comparable products to CZ? Perhaps the value of their brand? Ruger and Browning are both huge companies that spend gazillions on advertising and brand development. I bet that Rugger or Browning have more employees working in their sales and marketing department that CZ has in their factory in Uhersky Brod. Just MHO.
K
Fair enough, I'm not trying to build a collection. I'm trying to buy once, and buy smart.
An accurate rifle that you can enjoy printing with, also take out into the field and take game with. I want it to last as long as I do, but I would rather not pay an extra 100 in brand name.
this is a good point.
Who knows when the ruger American target is hitting shelves? I see you can pre order at grouse river
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gunrunner100
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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You and I both know there are a lot of considerations when buying a rifle, not just a trigger guard.
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You're not trying to build a collection, but if you're anything like the rest of us... you'll eventually do end up with one, not matter how eclectic it will be.
We all like different guns for different reasons.
While accuracy is usually pretty high up in the selection criteria list, I still enjoy shooting my Browning A-Bolt... even though it's only minute-of-pop-can accurate. It seldom (if ever) comes along hunting, but it does see its fair share of use at the range (just love working that bolt). Eventually it will get barrelled and a new set of rings...
The Browning Auto-22 is another nice little rimfire. Minute of squirrel accurate... Is it 3x better than a Savage or Marlin? It's for you to decide.
