Are you disillusionised when shopping for a black rifle?

When premium rifles with their nifty billet lowers start beating me in Service Rifle I will give a damn, until then it is a gimmick. Best money spent on upgrades is on a barrel, followed by ammo followed by optics.

Works with any rifle from the SS2 to the AUG.

have to agree 100% and the price diffrence between a norq m4 and the cheapest smith and wesson m 4 i can buy two norqs as for slave labour i dont buy that if canadians would stop with all the damn labour unions we would be much better off on our prices sorry but ive worked too many union job sites and been given #### for changing a light bulb cause i was rite there was told no way we have an electrician for that tke that bulb out meanwhile there are 10 guys standing around making 40 plus dollars an hour with there thumbs in there ass what do you think the minimum wage is in the states compared to that in canada sorry just some food for thought
 
Yes it is harsh
Well if you are that ignorant to put so much faith in a rifle that is made according to what standards again????? And then expect it to work flawlessly and complain about no Canadian made AR's out there, or any black rifle you get what you deserve in my book. Have fun with your slave labor made firearms..... It will be funny when those are the only firearms that are manufactured eventually for the market and they jack up their prices, so then you will be paying for a cheap low quality rifle at a premium...hahahahah


I definitely don't want to be standing next to you in a firing line, have fun with your Norc garbage rifle! Truthfully i have nothing really against Norc rifles in general besides there slave labor, but mostly against the type of people that buy them and then expect the world out of them!

But then again you navy guys always seem to lack the understanding of the big picture and completely miss the point :stirthepot2:
lmfao you definatly dont want to be standing next to me with my chinese m4 i would more than likely shoot circles around you all the money i saved to develop a good load and nice furniture and decent optics just who the #### you think you are saying #### like the type of people that buy a norq
and expect the worl from them i would expect no less from any other rifle
 
Fact is most Canadians don't deserve the opportunity to own these firearms in the first place.[/B

^^^^WOW, elitist liberal mentality at it's finest

As for making an affordable rifle for Canada, there are already affordable AR's out there, if you can only cough up $500 if that a month then save up and cut out smoking and all the other excessive crap you are spending your money on. But please stop #####ing like it is so difficult!

^^^^some people can't afford stuff not because they drink, do drugs or smoke, but because they are poor, so you are saying less fortunate gun nutz can't enjoy shooting sports???

What are your priorities?
For you cheapsters out there....YOU ARE NOT WORTH THE BOTHER!

SO SEEK LIFE ELSEWHERE


^^^^ Again, elitist liberal mentality

Hope your Norinco's blow up in your face!

^^^^Wendy is that you???

Give me a break, the difference is a couple hundred bucks, get a job and work! Hell well-fare cases could afford a decent AR, just cut out all the booze/drugs and cigarettes for a year. Great reputation of what??........SLAVE labor..

Yes it is harsh
Well if you are that ignorant to put so much faith in a rifle that is made according to what standards again????? And then expect it to work flawlessly and complain about no Canadian made AR's out there, or any black rifle you get what you deserve in my book. Have fun with your slave labor made firearms..... It will be funny when those are the only firearms that are manufactured eventually for the market and they jack up their prices, so then you will be paying for a cheap low quality rifle at a premium...hahahahah

^^^at this point in time i don't own any norcs but in the past all my norcs have operated flawlessly as designed, i have seen lots of canadian and american ARs fail, like stated up a few posts, you are paying higher wages not quility when you by domestic ARs


I definitely don't want to be standing next to you in a firing line, have fun with your Norc garbage rifle! Truthfully i have nothing really against Norc rifles in general besides there slave labor, but mostly against the type of people that buy them and then expect the world out of them!

^^^so are they garbage or do you just hate norc owners for not beinbg able to afford the domestic version, your arguements are weak and i suspect you may be a tad bi-polar, might want to see your doctor

But then again you navy guys always seem to lack the understanding of the big picture and completely miss the point :stirthepot2:

I don't see what being in the navy has anything to with it, i was in the army but i wanted spec pay and cannon fodder doesn't recieve spec pay

The aggorgance in this thread is alarming, the elitist attitude is also disgusting, i'm gonna play with my swiss arms now....
 
To those that complain about the high wages in North America and Europe:

I'd like to see how your opinion changes when you realise that YOUR job is replaceable by Indians and Chinese for 1/10th of what you make. Support your own economies and yourself in the process.

Attention Walmart shoppers...
 
To those that complain about the high wages in North America and Europe:

I'd like to see how your opinion changes when you realise that YOUR job is replaceable by Indians and Chinese for 1/10th of what you make. Support your own economies and yourself in the process.

Attention Walmart shoppers...

i agree with what your saying and dont get me wrong i have norq firearms as well as springfield ruger winchester savage colt and others just tired of people putting down the chinese we all forget they are our allies you know remember when canada made browning high power pistols for the chinese to help in the war effort
 
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^^^^ Again, elitist liberal mentality



^^^^Wendy is that you???





I don't see what being in the navy has anything to with it, i was in the army but i wanted spec pay and cannon fodder doesn't recieve spec pay

The aggorgance in this thread is alarming, the elitist attitude is also disgusting, i'm gonna play with my swiss arms now....

Give your head a shake... If you think buying a decently priced product like Dlask or any other Canadian made AR parts is being elitist, then i think you are in fact diluted with a socialists mind set that is incurable!

P.S. Wendy is laughing right now because of people like you, don't you think she would love if every firearm is made in China, because then it would be very easy to cut off the supply for the anti's.
 
Im not disillusioned at all, im overwelmed with the options available. I been PMing back and forth with a nice guy on here just trying to get an idea of where to start.
 
To those that complain about the high wages in North America and Europe:

I'd like to see how your opinion changes when you realise that YOUR job is replaceable by Indians and Chinese for 1/10th of what you make. Support your own economies and yourself in the process.

Attention Walmart shoppers...

+1
That the union fault and better yet the people that run them, basically we are being squeezed by all ends now. This is why North America is becoming a de-industrialized continent that is producing nothing, which effectively makes us a country that is a non-nation. If you produce nothing then you will be a slave to the countries that do, this is one step of making a your currency worthless and a major step to becoming an impoverished and slave nation.

The unions were never put in to help the "average Joe" in the first place, but to do exactly what they are doing today, forcing a our jobs to other cheap foreign markets. this ponzy scheme only works for the super rich in the end, this is a big reason why our standard of living is dropping and we are losing our rights slowly over time as well!
 
The only reason they are that affordable is because ........what do they pay their employees....... yeah like i want to support slave labor = no thanks..

It's going to be funny when this country makes nothing and these Asian companies start jacking up their prices, very funny indeed...just keep shooting yourself in the foot!

The only people I feel bad for are the ones that see this coming and tried to warn others with logical arguments based on facts, as for the majority of idiots out there that just want to cash in, can't wait to see you guys get what you deserve!

Hope your Norinco's blow up in your face!

Wether we buy chinese stuff from china cheaply or buy it from the Americans or other "local" producers at an outrageous mark up its still made in China.

Im buying what i want, period. Large corperations that are loaded in $$ and paying crap wages to Canadian and American workers, or have branch plants in china paying crapier wages to their workers..blame them.

Also, blame consumerism and over consumption. 90% of the crap we "need" to live we dont need at all.

As long as we value profit, selling low buying high, money lenders etc over the common farmers we will lose. The Chinese had it right- Confucius had it right, its the lower tier of our society thats the upper tier of theirs- the workers, the farmers, the builders, that actually support the economy not the money lending leaches. We can learn much from them.

Either way im not rich so Norinco gets my money. Decent quality, good price, sold!

Whatever savings I have ill spend on my NFA/CSSA and maybe a NSHA/ NRA membership.
 
So, you'd be ok being replaced yourself?

Explain...

I was actually agreeing with your sentiment :stirthepot2: , not arguing with it....:wave:

If you're trying to bring up the heavily discounted idea of social darwinism...? Or, else,... :confused:

I was trying to say that the pendulum could very quickly swing the other way, significantly, no matter where it is presently situated.....:yingyang:

Really, wasn't trying to be too deep with that particular comment o'mine! :D
 
lmfao you definatly dont want to be standing next to me with my chinese m4 i would more than likely shoot circles around you all the money i saved to develop a good load and nice furniture and decent optics just who the f**k you think you are saying s**t like the type of people that buy a norq
and expect the worl from them i would expect no less from any other rifle


You have fun with your Norc!

But remember this, why are you posting on this thread anyways then? you don't want to support the Canadian manufactures anyway...
 
If I were a multi millionaire, I will manufacture a 100% made in Canada AR15 at a cost of a Norc M4. I don't care about making $$$ by then. Time to give back to the firearms community.

Alas, me not even close to a millionaire. Sorry. Can't help. :(

I think we have an Alberta based company now...Alberta Tactical? I dont know about their prices...im pretty poor and im addicted to Norinco / military surplus firearms.
 
I think we have an Alberta based company now...Alberta Tactical? I dont know about their prices...im pretty poor and im addicted to Norinco / military surplus firearms.

For a few hundred more you could have a North American made AR or at least buy parts from Canadian manufacture from now on, China will screw us in the long run, or the importation laws will change, then What?
 
Give your head a shake... If you think buying a decently priced product like Dlask or any other Canadian made AR parts is being elitist, then i think you are in fact diluted with a socialists mind set that is incurable!

P.S. Wendy is laughing right now because of people like you, don't you think she would love if every firearm is made in China, because then it would be very easy to cut off the supply for the anti's.

people that can't afford high end stuff shouldn't be aloud to own guns is the the attitude your projecting, you'd rather have fewer shootesr than a firing line full of norc and domestic ARs, to each there own i quess, i believe in a free market, if the price is right and the function is there why not buy the norc or other product, take a look around your house, tell me there is not one thing made in china that you couldn't find a domestic version of, if not your a liar, if so your a hypocrypte, what makes FAs different from anything else when talking about keeping jobs in country, nothing only elitist attitudes,
also wendy probally hates the fact cheap functional FAs are coming into the country, this means more shooters, and we have strength in numbers and unity, if and most likely when the ban hammer falls on the ARs and other FAs it will better for our cause to have the country flooded with AR shooters, using domestic or chinese rifles,
 
people that can't afford high end stuff shouldn't be aloud to own guns is the the attitude your projecting, you'd rather have fewer shootesr than a firing line full of norc and domestic ARs, to each there own i quess, i believe in a free market, if the price is right and the function is there why not buy the norc or other product, take a look around your house, tell me there is not one thing made in china that you couldn't find a domestic version of, if not your a liar, if so your a hypocrypte, what makes FAs different from anything else when talking about keeping jobs in country, nothing only elitist attitudes,
also wendy probally hates the fact cheap functional FAs are coming into the country, this means more shooters, and we have strength in numbers and unity, if and most likely when the ban hammer falls on the ARs and other FAs it will better for our cause to have the country flooded with AR shooters, using domestic or chinese rifles,

I agree but, you are missing the big picture the Chinese don't want us armed, there not a natural Allie, Taiwan is.. we in the west have diluted our selves with globalism, all that will happen is we will end up like these other nation=slaves. 0 middle class

It's not a free market when then there is no fair standard or a level playing field of doing business. The fact is we can't compete with slave labor wages all that will happen is we will lose our wealth and the middle class will shrink, it's already happening, just look for the collapse of the US..It's obvious...

The Russian & Chinese are making deals without using the US dollar as the international currency anymore, there going to dumb it some time soon along with everyone else possibly, this can't go on for ever!
 
I agree but, you are missing the big picture the Chinese don't want us armed, there not a natural Allie, Taiwan is.. we in the west have diluted our selves with globalism, all that will happen is we will end up like these other nation=slaves. 0 middle class

It's not a free market when then there is no fair standard or a level playing field of doing business. The fact is we can't compete with slave labor wages all that will happen is we will lose our wealth and the middle class will shrink, it's already happening, just look for the collapse of the US..It's obvious...

The Russian & Chinese are making deals without using the US dollar as the international currency anymore, there going to dumb it some time soon along with everyone else possibly, this can't go on for ever!

so you don't like buying chinese stuff bcause of geo-political reasons?? fair enough...i like seeing the firing line full, i like seeing the college kid and the asian business man(how that for sterotyping) at the range all doing something we enjoy....
 
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