Attention! Poco Gun club members! DON'T USE 10 ROUND LAR-15 MAGAZINE AT RANGE 7!
- Thread starter WEEGEE
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The Barnet range had a 1-round limit in rifles, I voted against in in the AGM before the range got shut down, the gorrilas voted for it and won. Having fools run the range is a great way of destroying what support you have.
- Location
- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
Six Star said:Again, fair enough! I choose to simply stay away from PoCo.
Personally I wish you wouldn't, we need passionate people with different interests and a desire to promote those interests. I too question much of the crap I hear there, but it is like CGN, you might not always agree, but you cut the mods some slack as they are doing the best they can.
Nope we need people like you and when you are driven away it weakens all of us, even those who wear flannel
I have not been up shooting in a long time, especially to range 7 as it is just too crowded for me. But I understand that John has retired and maybe the R.O. in question is just another member donating some time until they can get a proper R.W.?
Maybe what we need is a R.W. who is into blackguns?
KTK
- Location
- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
NaOH said:
Well unless you have been there on a weekend you might want to reconsider your words, I swear I wouldn't let some of those jackasses have 1 round. And the truth of the matter is with 10 rounds they are very likely to shoot 10 people as with 5 they shouldn't be able to shoot more than 5 or 6.
I guess if we do not allow day cards and keep all the newbies away then we should be safe enough.
KTK
I guess I'm lucky. I belong to 2 clubs in the Kootenays. I only shoot weekdays, I'm always the first one there and that makes me the RO.
Normally there is only 2 or 3 people around when I'm shooting so, while range rules are nominally adhered to, the atmosphere is pretty relaxed.
Drink coffee and shoot the s**t and shoot whatever firearm you bring. Black, green, handguns, shotguns, muskets, whatever. Round counts, mag regs, timed firing, wtf Totally foreign to me and 99% of the members.
Best part is when you get 2 or 3 guys on the handgun range all firing at the same time in their lanes. Same size target, same distance and 10 shots. Believe me when I say money can be made. (XD40/9mm conversion) Beat the Glock twice and Sig twice. M1911 A1 Commander double stack beat me once.
Since I have lived in the boonies most of life I feel for the club members near or in the urban centers. I have never been faced with the restrictions you guys have to endure.
But, if my clubs decide to get uber f**king politically correct. I'll just hop on the quad and head to my own private range. ( so far in the back country no one gives a rats ass)
PS: Does POCO consider a non restricted CX4 Storm a rifle or a pistol? (should answer the mag limit question)
Normally there is only 2 or 3 people around when I'm shooting so, while range rules are nominally adhered to, the atmosphere is pretty relaxed.
Drink coffee and shoot the s**t and shoot whatever firearm you bring. Black, green, handguns, shotguns, muskets, whatever. Round counts, mag regs, timed firing, wtf
Totally foreign to me and 99% of the members.Best part is when you get 2 or 3 guys on the handgun range all firing at the same time in their lanes. Same size target, same distance and 10 shots. Believe me when I say money can be made. (XD40/9mm conversion)
Beat the Glock twice and Sig twice. M1911 A1 Commander double stack beat me once.Since I have lived in the boonies most of life I feel for the club members near or in the urban centers. I have never been faced with the restrictions you guys have to endure.
But, if my clubs decide to get uber f**king politically correct. I'll just hop on the quad and head to my own private range.
( so far in the back country no one gives a rats ass)PS: Does POCO consider a non restricted CX4 Storm a rifle or a pistol?
(should answer the mag limit question)
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Interesting. I was down in Vancouver for a vacation a few years ago (I'm orignianally from there). I shot at Poco. It was a lot busier than what I'm used to but everyone seemed fairly polite and all groups were treated equally.
I hope they aren't anti AR there. Since I just purchased one and plan on shooting there when I return to the lower mainland in a few years.
That being said. I knew this was going to come up. The problem is the way the firearms act is written. Technically according to the law you can use a 10 round mag. However when you get into the reasoning for the law, it's clearly designed to have pistols maxed at 10 rounds and rifles at 5. So the letter of the law allows you to have the 10 round pistol mags which work in an AR rifle, however the intention of the law isn't for you to use those mags in an AR rifle.
Some will respect that it's not illegal per say. Others will consider it weaseling and against the intentions of the law.
Since most ranges have a max round limit anyways it's a mute point. I know Langley Rod and Gun club (also shot there once during my vacation) has a 5 round limit on everything. Which pissed me off to no end, especially since I had 15 round mags. Then of course there is the no use of silloughette style targets. When in Rome....
It's still better to shoot with regulations like the above, than not shooting at all.
I hope they aren't anti AR there. Since I just purchased one and plan on shooting there when I return to the lower mainland in a few years.
That being said. I knew this was going to come up. The problem is the way the firearms act is written. Technically according to the law you can use a 10 round mag. However when you get into the reasoning for the law, it's clearly designed to have pistols maxed at 10 rounds and rifles at 5. So the letter of the law allows you to have the 10 round pistol mags which work in an AR rifle, however the intention of the law isn't for you to use those mags in an AR rifle.
Some will respect that it's not illegal per say. Others will consider it weaseling and against the intentions of the law.
Since most ranges have a max round limit anyways it's a mute point. I know Langley Rod and Gun club (also shot there once during my vacation) has a 5 round limit on everything. Which pissed me off to no end, especially since I had 15 round mags. Then of course there is the no use of silloughette style targets. When in Rome....
It's still better to shoot with regulations like the above, than not shooting at all.
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- Kumankissmyass, BC
In the case of the Beretta Storm 10 round 9mm pistol mags. I carry a copy of the memo from the CFC stating their legality when used in a carbine...if anyone wants to argue thay can call the 1-800 number while I continue shooting...
Ken The Kanuck said:
You are an (self edit) and work for Wendy... seriously reread what you wrote (over and over until you get it) that's exactly the thinking that got us pinned mags.
Ken the Kanuck you are part of the problem WTFU!
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- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
MPI said:
You are an (self edit) and work for Wendy... seriously reread what you wrote (over and over until you get it) that's exactly the thinking that got us pinned mags.
KMA
KTK
I jsut went through this thread for the first time not believing the crap we have to put up with from other shooters.
THEN I READ THIS STATEMENT?!?!?!?
I can't believe there are people who shoot that say stuff like this.
Why don't you phone Wendy up and give her some quotes like:
"I'm a shooter and I think we shouldn't have....."
Come on!!!
mattfrombc
Regular
I simply cannot wrap my mind around the fact that some here actually believe it's going to make a difference whether your handgun is loaded to a full 10 rounds or downloaded to 5 rounds with concern to safety. As MPI points out its rhetoric like this that is selling us out to the antis, and plays into their divide and conquer disarmement strategy.
KTK, your sentiments certainly do not represent me. I haven't taken issue with your posts specifically in the past but I find it absurd to think you'd actually suggest keeping newbies away from the range (I hope you're joking)
Anyways, the only other range warden I've seen on range 7 is Colin (I believe his name is) and he shoots and owns ARs. I have a hard time believing him to be the antagonist, so perhaps it's a new range warden if they've found one already.
KTK, your sentiments certainly do not represent me. I haven't taken issue with your posts specifically in the past but I find it absurd to think you'd actually suggest keeping newbies away from the range (I hope you're joking)
Anyways, the only other range warden I've seen on range 7 is Colin (I believe his name is) and he shoots and owns ARs. I have a hard time believing him to be the antagonist, so perhaps it's a new range warden if they've found one already.
- Location
- Burke Mountain & Pavilion Lake, B.C.
mattfrombc said:
Of course I'm joking about the newbies, ask anyone who knows me about my track record when it comes to introducing new people to our sport.
The crack about how many rounds some should be allowed, was also given tongue in cheek. If the Range Warden feels he can control the safety of the range by limiting the number of rounds in a magazine, well that's up to him. It's not my call, I'll just try to relieve some of his anxiety and follow his rules.
But I really don't give a rat's ass if some here are horrified or upset by my crack. If we just shove our heads in the sand and ignore or pretend that there not people who should not have guns, or knives, or cars or allowed to purchase gasoline, then we deserve no more respect than those who believe no one should have guns. If Wendy and/or her minions can take comfort in my statement then they are truly grasping at straws.
KTK
Epoxy7 said:
We know what the intention of the weasels who wrote the law was. F'em if they can't get it their way. The latest ruling said these mags were okay, but quislings at that range prefer being chained over the barrel.
