ATT's what you need to know

So ... I just called for a blanket (western Canada) ATT. A very nice woman said "we don't do that anymore ... its been taken advantage of in the past!" ... I'll give you AB (where I live).

I said "how do I get my stuff to my buddy's place in BC?". She said "get a temp!".

Sucks to be me ... I guess ...
 
Mike K said:
When filling out the form include; name, address, PAL #, phone #, name of range that you will primarily be shooting at, sign and date it and leave the rest ofthe form blank. Your ATT will come back being valid for all ranges in western Canada, all gunsmiths and all border crossings providing that you have the appropriate U.S. documentation.
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Mike just so I have this right. I only need to check the box M in section C Reason for Transport and write in the name of the club and that's it? (As well as the personal and firearm info.) Don't worry about times or transport routes? This will allow me to go to any club or gunsmith in western canada?

How long does this usually take to approve and how often should I check back with the CFO? Don't want to pester them as I am sure that could have a negative affect.

Thanks
 
DE44 said:
Mike just so I have this right. I only need to check the box M in section C Reason for Transport and write in the name of the club and that's it? (As well as the personal and firearm info.) Don't worry about times or transport routes? This will allow me to go to any club or gunsmith in western canada?

How long does this usually take to approve and how often should I check back with the CFO? Don't want to pester them as I am sure that could have a negative affect.

Thanks
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Yup. Check box M and enter the appropriate range that you will be primarily shooting at and that is it. Leave the routes, times and dates blank. Don't worry about the gibberish in Section B either. That's for twits back east who can't be trusted with which guns they take to the range.
 
Ripstop said:
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector (not a good thing) or that you are thinking of joining ###X club. In reality, it is best that you have already joined a club before you decide to own restricted firearms.
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This is incorrect. You don't have to be a collector or a club member to purchase a restricted firearm. It's good enough to say that you intend to become a member of a certain club in the future.
 
capp325 said:
This is incorrect. You don't have to be a collector or a club member to purchase a restricted firearm. It's good enough to say that you intend to become a member of a certain club in the future.
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This is a true statement. I just purchased a .22 handgun and I don't belong to a club. You only have to state which club you intend to shoot at. They understand that if you are purchasing your first restricted firearm, there was no need previously for you to have a club membership. They also know about the wait times to get memberships.
 
Mike K

I got my long term ATT this week and like you said it is good for all of Western Canada and the Yukon, all gunsmiths, shops, ranges, and travel south with correct PW. Might be a stupid question, but since I have not listed a firearm will this be good for any restricted firearms I purchase in the future or do I need to go through this process again?

Thanks in advance.
 
The ATT issued in Alberta is typically written to allow you to transport any Restricted (or Prohibited) firearm from your residence as listed on the second page to the destinations specified. You must be in possession of your Firearms licence and the registration certificate of the firearm(s) being transported at all times.

What this means is that once you get a new restricted to your house, and the cert arrives, it is covered by your ATT. Read the conditions attached to YOUR copy carefully, they are not always the same for everyone.
 
DE44 said:
Mike K

I got my long term ATT this week and like you said it is good for all of Western Canada and the Yukon, all gunsmiths, shops, ranges, and travel south with correct PW. Might be a stupid question, but since I have not listed a firearm will this be good for any restricted firearms I purchase in the future or do I need to go through this process again?

Thanks in advance.
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You are good to go.
 
Are we confirmed that this is the process in Ontario? I find it difficult to believe that Ontario operates so differently than the other provinces; it is almost draconian.

Is there any way to personally apply for the ATT and get a 'blanket' ATT that permits me to transport to any range, any license gunsmith, border points, etc.?

Here is why I ask... I plan on joining MORE than one club. (I have friends at one club. Friends at a second club. And I just plain LIKE the third club that I visited last Friday evening. Don't know if I can afford to join all three, but for sure I am going to join at least two of them).

I would also like the ability to transport the firearms into the USA as I am a dual citizen (i.e. a US Citizen) and expect to have the necessary paperwork to carry the firearm with me when stateside. Especially since I am at about the age where retirement plans figure into the equation and I will be spending half the year stateside.

Sorry to mess up the thread... but seriously guys, since the post was made in May... any changes? Most importantly, any way to get a more 'liberal' ATT in Ontario. (And how about prior to deciding which club I am joining and better yet, which club will have me as a member... there are so many clubs in Ontario they all seem to be rather picky about who they allow to petition for membership!).

Thanks

ML

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Ripstop said:
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector (not a good thing) or that you are thinking of joining ###X club. In reality, it is best that you have already joined a club before you decide to own restricted firearms.

Steps to take:

1. Make sure you have your restricted qualification first. If not, then take the course and write or challenge the exam.

2. Join a firearm club/range. They will send in the ATT application for you.

3. Buy a restricted firearm. The CFO will give you a TATT (temporary authority to transport). Now you can take that restricted firearm home. Note: You can only transport it directly home, after which the TATT will be of no use again. You will want to own a restricted firearm at this point in time because the club may need a restricted firearm serial # when they apply for an ATT for you.

4. Take a club approved handgun safety course.

5. Hand in your successful marking of the exam or a letter stating that you have passed the course to your secretary of your club as well as your firearm serial number. Note: Other clubs do not require your firearm serial number. Ask exactly what they need from you. Also ask for the greatest time limit and distance you can have on your ATT.

6. After the club receives your ATT back, you will then be called in to take an orientation of the club you belong to. At this time, you will be handed your ATT.

Your ATT is good for only exactly what it states. Read it carefully.

This process took me about 5 months from beginning to end (Oct. 2005/Feb. 2006).
Any finer points that I may have overlooked, please send me a PM.
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I will be able to post about Quebec soon. I am not a member of any clubs although I do shoot at EOHC as a guest.

I ordered my first restricted today, a Nork Tok from Marstar. I am hoping things work out but understanding that there is a chance they will not.

Anyway, I will post in detail about my findings.
 
Quebec

I can answer for Quebec. I bought my first handgun about 2 months ago.

1. follow a security course for handgun
2. Fill in the form, have your wife and 2 persons who know you signed the form.
3. Mail it to CFC and wait for the "restricted" class be added to your existing non restricted PAL.

4. Get a shooting club membership
5. Order a handgun from a store.

6. The CFC will call one of the person who signed the restricted pal form to verify if you don't intend to make some trouble

7. The Quebec provincial Police who is responsible to issue the ATT (in Quebec) will call you and ask for a proof of shooting club
membership. Fill in the ATT form, and send it with a photocopy of your membership card. Write TBD as the gun's serial number.

8. You will receive 2 ATT, One for the transportation from the seller to your home and one for the transportation from your home to
the club (period of validity will be less than 1 year because may be you won't be member of the club next year!).

9. Then the seller can ship you the gun

10. You receive the gun, then your receive the ATT and then the handgun registration.

ouf!!!
 
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Ontario
steps to take
1:buy a restricted must tell cfo what club you plan on shooting it at temp att will be issued from sellers location to your residence
2:join club if not already member complete club saftey course
3:after reciveing restricted have club apply for att if there is no restricted registered in your name att won't be issued
4:wait and wait and wait and they finally when the att arives take to range and blast away
 
still confused

Hi all:

As a new contender for the "Restricted Firearms" arena in Ontario, I also have a few questions.

For my ATT (the one my range got me issued) I just want to know exactly what locations are valid. I know it's valid for my Range where I am a current member but it says on the back "To: All Ristricted Ranges approved by the CFO-Ontario" or something to that effect. Does this mean I can take it to "any restricted range in ontario" or only for my range? There is a disclaimer on the back that says "valid for locations specified." Somebody help a poor boy out :runaway: :(
 
you can take it to any range approved by the CFO in Ontario
If you shoot at another club for example for a match, you do not need a different ATT to do that
 
DE44 said:
Mike K

I got my long term ATT this week and like you said it is good for all of Western Canada and the Yukon, all gunsmiths, shops, ranges, and travel south with correct PW. Might be a stupid question, but since I have not listed a firearm will this be good for any restricted firearms I purchase in the future or do I need to go through this process again?

Thanks in advance.
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How long did it take for it to arrive?
 
Alberta
I've been told that since mid December they have been asking for club memberships when you buy a gun
I'm not sure if its the same for the ATT's
 
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