ATV duel

captonion said:
New is one thing.What about a year or two down the road?Honda,Yamaha,and Suzuki will blow the rest away in the long run.
Who isn't happy after spending thousands of dollars on a brand new vehicle? Come back to me in a couple of years after reasonable use and see who is still shining.

Rotaxpower said:
2 Polaris is junk, trust me, I used to wrench on ATV's on a daily basis
Then again, there is nothing like anecdotal evidence either. ;)
 
Honda's are the most reliable things going. ive owned hondas and yamahas and I won't touch a yamaha ever again (not even with a 10ft pole lol). Not only did it break down ALL THE TIME the yamaha dealership was such a bunch of ass clowns that Iu hated bringing it there and they would way over charge you and a number of time they didnt even fix the problem and I had to bring it right back to them. :mad:
their machines suck, their service sucks and now I won't ever get adventurous again lol I'll just stick with my Hondas, witch have never let me down and they have great service to back them up with.
 
savagefan said:
How are those new CAN-AMS?


their nice man. I took a 400 for a test drive last month. 7800 bucks with 120 miles on it "test model" father almost bought it, but other projects came in the way... you know how it is lol.
But ya, awesome machine, 400 H.0. not even their biggest bike "biggest is 800 H.0." and let me tell ya. the 400 was nice.

Here is a lil snippet of just how much better power wise the 400HO is to other brands.

There's the segment's most powerful engine with 11% more power than the new-for-2006 Polaris Sportsman 450, 15% more power than a Kodiak 450 and 47% more than the Honda Rancher AT.

The Outlander 400 H.O. is still the class leader in power and performance.

... Polaris doesn't stand a chance against these bad boy's lol. like comparing a ford tempo to a chevy corvette "chucklez"
 
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Just a question how many actual CC's does the bombardier 400 h.o outlander have? I know the kodiak 450 actually has 421cc.

Polaris may have come up with the belt drive system, but everybody else perfected it in a way shorter amount of time.

If someone is looking at new machines -within lets say 3 years- (im assuming this is the subject intended for the thread) lets keep it to that.

I know someone who swore up and down about honda (dont get my wrong, probably my 2nd choice) and then thought he would give yamaha a try. (about 7 years ago) he picked up a big bear that was 10 years old at the time and had nothing but problems with it. Now, how fair is it to compare a 10 year old machine with one that is relatively new? I told him that but he didn't want to listen...
 
scout3006 said:
I've had my Polaris for 3 years now of moderately heavy use, and it has been an outstanding workhorse with no problems whatsoever. Very user friendly so the wife and the inlaws/outlaws can drive it too. :D The Polaris has got to have something good going for it if the US military uses it as their official ATV. Their products have been very innovative and other companies are scrambling to emulate their extensive lineup of machines.

No flies on that one!

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Now that pic is some funny chit!!!
 
I won a Polaris Sportsman 500 HO early 2005...:dancingbanana: :D :runaway: :D :dancingbanana:

It has worked perfectly for me and I have pulled 2 huge moose out of the bush with it last year as well as I load it up with all of my prospecting and hunting gear and head out into the bush for days.

This year when I was up north western Williston Lake I hooked my 4.2' X 8.2' trailer loaded stacked high with 2/3 of a cord of split wood up to it and I took 6 loads like this down logging roads averaging about 40klm to the cabin's wood shed.

We also dropped trees that we cut into 3 16' lengths each and I dragged 2 lengths at a time down the logging road to the cabin for my buddy to build an addition onto the cabin this next spring.

Awesomely powerful reliable machine....

Best $25.00 I have ever spent......;)
 
Awesomely powerful reliable machine....

Curious as to how many kilometers you have on the machine to consider it reliable.Our rangers at work appeared to be quite reliable until they had a couple of hundred hours on them.Then all the problems started.
 
We have a fleet of Polaris 2004 UTVs (14) and ATVs (6). They work great in the bush but when you abuse them, they require HUGE amounts of servicing and parts.

Treat them properly and they work great.
 
stubblejumper said:
Curious as to how many kilometers you have on the machine to consider it reliable.Our rangers at work appeared to be quite reliable until they had a couple of hundred hours on them.Then all the problems started.

It happens with all machines after exteneded use.

Try to find a dealership of any brand that can get you in in a week for a service job.

I'm hearing guys don't like the belts and too heavy about the Polaris but after driving the Polaris in the quagmire I realized Honda just hasn't held their own in the 4 x 4 systems. Polaris just outright leaves them in the dust.

The rest, I don't know, I'm still a new Polaris driver but I'll have a report the next time this thread pops up;)
 
It happens with all machines after exteneded use.

All machines require some maintenance,but some require considerably more.I have seen several honda and yamaha quads with over 10,000 km without any major repairs.I can't say the same for Polaris.The seismic crews,surveyors,construction crews,outfitters and forestry people use mostly honda machines with some using Yamaha.They choose honda or yamaha because of the reduced maintenance and downtime compared to other quads.
 
stubblejumper said:
The seismic crews,surveyors,construction crews,outfitters and forestry people use mostly honda machines with some using Yamaha.They choose honda or yamaha because of the reduced maintenance and downtime compared to other quads.

Very true. Hard to argue with the truth...
 
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The seismic crews,surveyors,construction crews,outfitters and forestry people use mostly honda machines with some using Yamaha.They choose honda or yamaha because of the reduced maintenance and downtime compared to other quads.



crazy_davey said:
Very true. Hard to argue with the truth...

:eek: Are you guys kiddin me??
Of course the old Honda's had less maintainence, they had NO friggin options!
No working 4wd system, no IRS for decent ride & No ground clearance, No friggin brakes after the first mud puddle, No complicted tranny >(no high/low range)
You want a dead realiable (even that's questionable with all the electric shift problems) machine, fine. I may replace the odd wheel bearing but after a long day on the ATV I can get off my Grizzly & WALK to the house :) which is more than I could say after an hr on any of the old Honda's I had.

As far as Poaris's well there was a time not to long ago I wouldn't give you a thank you for a break prone Pol but I must say the last couple years their quailty & dependability has def improved :) I still wouldn't buy one, I just don't like the snowmobile "slip the belt" type CVT system they use.
 
northwoodslivin said:
their nice man. I took a 400 for a test drive last month. 7800 bucks with 120 miles on it "test model" father almost bought it, but other projects came in the way... you know how it is lol.
But ya, awesome machine, 400 H.0. not even their biggest bike "biggest is 800 H.0." and let me tell ya. the 400 was nice.

Here is a lil snippet of just how much better power wise the 400HO is to other brands.

There's the segment's most powerful engine with 11% more power than the new-for-2006 Polaris Sportsman 450, 15% more power than a Kodiak 450 and 47% more than the Honda Rancher AT.

The Outlander 400 H.O. is still the class leader in power and performance.

Well owning a 04 400 Outlander as one of my two ATVs I can certainly tell you they are powerfull :) & probably have the best rear suspension in the busness.
BUT that's the only friggin good thing you can say about those pieces of broken down crap :mad: The list of problems resolved & unresolved is far too long to list here including broken spars (frame) which Bomb refuses to even recognize:mad: (very common)!
 
senior said:
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:eek: Are you guys kiddin me??
Of course the old Honda's had less maintainence, they had NO friggin options!
No working 4wd system, no IRS for decent ride & No ground clearance, No friggin brakes after the first mud puddle, No complicted tranny >(no high/low range)

Who the hell said we were talking about OLD Hondas? Do you think an oil company or a siesmec company or any others for that matter, run old quads and trucks etc.. Maybe in Onterrible but not like that out here in Alberta. Almost every company I know replaces thier quads every two to four years, and yes, mostly with Hondas. In Alberta the ATV market is HUGE buissness right now because of the oil boom.

If I need to explain the Alberta oil boom to you, then you must have fell off the face of the earth.
 
Who the hell said we were talking about OLD Hondas? Do you think an oil company or a siesmec company or any others for that matter, run old quads and trucks etc.. Maybe in Onterrible but not like that out here in Alberta. Almost every company I know replaces thier quads every two to four years, and yes, mostly with Hondas. In Alberta the ATV market is HUGE buissness right now because of the oil boom

Well put,and many of the new hondas have part time 4x4,hydraulic disc brakes and some like the 400at and the rubicon have real automatic transmissions.
 
It seems to me that someone has had problems with almost any machine out there at some point. I think every one has it's strong and weak points. I agree that Honda generally seems reliable, but compared to other comparable quads, have less power, wometimes lots less. That makes sense, because in two similar size/displacement engines, the one with less power generally lasts longer, due to reduced stress on engine parts. That carries over into tranny, drivetrain and pretty much everything else. Polaris has good power, though they've had some reliability issue's, like the little discs or sliders in the clutch wearing out. I had a new Scrambler 500, which had them replaced under warranty. My buddy bought his at the same time, didn't check them, and had to replace the clutch later on out of pocket. That was the only issue I ever had in the years I owned it, and it got ridden hard and regularly. Some of my friends had Kawi's and Honda's, and they worked good, just too slow and heavy. I did find that in head-to-head competition in the mud pits, no one could keep up with the Scramblers. This was some years back now, and I see most companies have some form of locking front diff now, so maybe the field is leveled a bit, but I loved that AWD system. Can-am looks good right now, the Rotax has a great rep, but I'm hearing a few to many issue's to be sold just yet. What about Suzuki? That's one I never rode. Price seems pretty good, and they've been around long enough to know how to build a proper atv, but no one talks about them anymore.
 
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